William (Braose) de Braose
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William (Braose) de Braose (abt. 1224 - 1291)

Sir William "1st Lord Brewes" de Braose formerly Braose aka de Brewes
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 1245 in Gower, Walesmap
Husband of — married 1268 in Cadbury, Somerset, Englandmap
Husband of — married before 1271 in Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 67 in Findon, Sussex, Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 23 Sep 2015
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Biography

William de Brewes, Knt., of Bramber, Sussex, England[1][2]

Son and heir of John de Brewes, Knt., William was of full age 15 July 1245 (so born about 1224). His mother was Margaret of Wales, daughter of Llywelyn, Prince of North Wales.[3]
William's first wife was Aline, daughter of Thomas de Multon and Maud de Vaux. They had a son:[1]
Aline died before 1267/8.[1]
William married second Agnes de Moels, daughter of Nicholas de Moels and Hawise de Newmarch. They had one son: [1]
In or before 1271, William married third Mary de Roos, daughter of Robert de Roos, Knt., and Isabel d'Aubeney.[1] Their children:
"Sir William de Brewes, 1st Lord Brewes, died at Findon, Sussex 6 Jan. 1290/1, and was buried at Sell, Sussex 15 January following."[1] (Findon is about 5 miles west of Bramber.[7])

Research Notes

Name

There are a variety of spellings of William's last name, and no single one is "right".
  • Richardson standardized to Brewes,[3] which is also the main heading in Cokayne's Complete Peerage, although the text for William spells it Breuse, noting that he was summoned "by writs directed Willelmo de Breuse, Brehuse, or Brewes. He is recorded to have sat in Parl. of Apr.-May 1290,... whereby he may be held to have been Lord Brewose."[8] Cawley uses Briose for the father and Breuse for William.[9]
  • Other sources prefer Braose, for instance:
    • The Calendars of the Close Rolls for the reign of Henry III[10]
    • Keats-Rohan's Domesday Descendants, referring to other members of the family[11]
    • The Victoria County Histories[12]
    • I J Sanders in his English Baronies[13]
  • Entries for the family in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography mainly use "Briouze [Braose]".[14]
  • Some sources are inconsistent, but mostly use the Braose form - for instance:
    • Farrer's Honors and Knights' Fees, which gives several spellings but mostly uses Braose, including for the William of this profile[15]
    • Frederick Lewis Weis's Magna Carta Sureties, which also uses more than one spelling but generally uses Braose for the family[16]

Marriages

Richardson does not give locations of William's three marriages, which the datafields show as Gower, Wales (for Aline, in 1245); Cadbury, Somersetshire, England (for Agnes, in 1268); and England (for Mary). Richardson gives a date only for William's third marriage: "in or before 1271". The date for his second marriage shown in the datafields (1268) is based on his first wife's death, which Richardson has as "before 1267/8". The date for his first marriage is based on William "being of full age" in 1245.[3]

Unsourced Child

Richardson does not list a daughter Eleanor, but does say that William and Mary had "two or more daughters", naming only Margaret.[3] Perhaps Eleanor was one of those other daughters.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume I, pages 532-4 BREWES 8.
  2. Richardson's entry for William in Royal Ancestry (I:532-4 BREWES 8) gives his name as "William de Brewes" with alternative spellings of Breuse, Brehuse, Breouse. Alternative spellings for his father's entry (I:530-2 BREWES 7) are "Breuse, Brause, etc."
  3. 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), volume I, pages 313-325 BREWES.
  4. Giles' first wife, Beatrice, was born c1272 and died 1 June 1298. Giles's second wife, Maud, survived him - he died "shortly before 7 Jan. 1305", Maud remarried "before 8 March 1321". ~ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry (2013), III:43 FROME 9.
  5. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry (2013), I:142-143 TETBURY 9.
  6. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry (2013), II:67-68 CAMOYS 6.
  7. 4.7 miles/7.6 kms, according to Google Maps, accessed 22 March 2020.
  8. G. E. Cokayne, ed. V. Gibbs. The Complete Peerage, volume 2 (1912), pages 302-4; online at FamilySearch (sign-in required; accessed 23 March 2020).
  9. Charles Cawley, MedLands entry for John Briouse (accessed 23 March 2020).
  10. 'Index: B', in Calendar of Close Rolls, Henry III, Volume 11, 1259-1261, ed. A E Stamp (London, 1934), pp. 510-518, British History Online, accessed 23 March 2020: subscription required for full access; index freely viewable
  11. K S B Keats-Rohan. "Domesday descendants", Boydell Press, 2002, pp. 346-7
  12. The Victoria County Histories are available on British History Online
  13. I J Sanders. English Baronies, a Study of their Origin and Descent 1086-1317, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1960 - numerous references to the Braose family, including the William of this profile (eg p. 108)
  14. See for instance Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, entry for 'Briouze [Braose], William de (d. 1211), print and online 2004, available online via some libraries
  15. For the William of this profile, see William Farrer, Honors and Knights' Fees, Vol. III, Manchester University Press, 1925, pp. 72 and 340
  16. Frederick Lewis Weis. The Magna Carta Sureties 1215, 5th edition, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1999
  • Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
  • Cokayne, G.E., Gibbs, V., ed. The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1910-). See also WikiTree's source page for Complete Peerage.
  • Cawley, Charles. Entry for John Briouse, "Medieval Lands": A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families © by Charles Cawley, hosted by Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG). See also WikiTree's source page for MedLands.
See also:

*Curfman, Robert Joseph. "The Yale Dexcent from Braiose and Clare Through Pigott of Buckinghamshire." The American Genealogist 56: 4 (1980) Link at AmericanAncestors ($)

  • For additional information about early baronies, see the top-level category page Early English Feudal Baronies. Individual category pages (links below) should include information specific to the category.

Acknowledgements

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Magna Carta Project

This profile was reviewed and approved for the Project 22 March 2020 by ~ Noland-165 06:19, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
William de Brewes is a descendant of Magna Carta Surety Baron Richard de Clare in trails badged by the Magna Carta Project to the following Gateway Ancestors:
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This profile was reviewed and approved by Liz Shifflett on 22 Mar 2020.
posted by Traci Thiessen
edited by Traci Thiessen
I recommend that the LNAB spelling be changed to Brewes (see #Research Notes). The only "Braose" that I could find was WikiTree & Wikipedia. The Wikipedia use appeared to be supported by Cokayne, but it's not. I thought perhaps Breuse would be a better choice, but the corrections page for Cokayne dissuaded me, since Brewes is listed there, but not Breuse - see http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/

Did I miss an authoritative source for "Braose"? If so, let me know. If not, I'll make the change for this profile & post to G2G about profiles for his family members.

Thanks! Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Facts trump intuition. My intuition is that this was a Norman-French family and Braose sounds more French than Brewes. My gut feeling is that Richardson has a tendency to use English equivalent names for other families that I think would have used French names in practice. I like the sound of Braose and don't like the sound of Brewes, so I will be sad when Braose goes away.

All of this feeling stuff is irrelevent here! If the facts are that the family didn't use Braose, and that their name is best standardized to Brewes, then the LNAB should be Brewes! Go for it.

posted by Jack Day
edited by Jack Day
Looking through my personal database, I have this information quoted from the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography for William de Braose who is https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Braose-170 on Wikitree.

"Briouze [Braose], William (III) de (d. 1211), magnate, was a landholder of the Welsh and Irish marches, whose friendship with King John won him rich rewards, but whose dramatic fall from favour and relentless pursuit by John contributed to baronial distrust and fear of the king.

Norman origins The name derives from Briouze-St Gervais, near Argentin, where William held his ancestors' three fees until the loss of Normandy in 1203-4.

The article continues, but this is the pertinent information regarding the name. The sources for the article are: Chancery records · Pipe rolls · Chronica magistri Rogeri de Hovedene, ed. W. Stubbs, 4 vols., Rolls Series, 51 (1868–71) · Ann. mon., vol. 1 · Rogeri de Wendover liber qui dicitur flores historiarum, ed. H. G. Hewlett, 3 vols., Rolls Series, [84] (1886–9) · H. S. Sweetman and G. F. Handcock, eds., Calendar of documents relating to Ireland, 5 vols., PRO (1875–86), vol. 1 · D. Walker, Medieval Wales (1990) · GEC, Peerage · I. J. Sanders, English baronies: a study of their origin and descent, 1086–1327 (1960) · I. W. Rowlands, ‘William de Braose and the lordship of Brecon’, BBCS, 30 (1982-3), 122–33 · P. Meyer, ed., L'histoire de Guillaume le Maréchal, 3 vols. (Paris, 1891-1901) · Rymer, Foedera · T. D. Hardy, ed., Rotuli de oblatis et finibus, RC (1835) · F. M. Powicke, ‘Loretta, countess of Leicester’, Historical essays in honour of James Tait, ed. J. G. Edwards, V. H. Galbraith, and E. F. Jacob (1933), 247-72

Briouze is a commune in the Orne department of Normandy in northwestern France. With that in mind, the earlier generations, at the very least, should be spelled that way. Have any extant records been searched? I agree with Jack re: Richardson...

Maurice Boddy uses Briouze on his website: http://mauriceboddy.org.uk/Abergavenny.htm as does Project Medlands: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3.htm

This discussion should be held on G2G with hopes that Andrew, Joe, RJ, et al. might get involved...

posted by Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill
edited by Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill
Thanks everyone. Seems I missed a LOT of good sources - ODNB being just one. Braose it stays.

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I have expanded the research note on the name. Hope this is helpful.
posted by Michael Cayley
K S B Keats-Rohan, "Domesday descendants", Boydell Press, 2002, pp. 346-7, uses the Braose form for the family.

I J Sanders ("English Baronies, a Study of their Origin and Descent 1086-1317", Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1960) uses the Braose form in numerous references to members of the family, including some to William himself (eg p. 7, but there are a number of others).

Frederick Lewis Weis in "The Magna Carta Sureties" generally uses Braose for the family, but is not consistent.

The Victoria County Histories consistently use Braose.

The Calendars of the Close Rolls of the reign of Henry III index him under Braose.

William Farrer in his "Honors and Knights' Fees" is inconsistent for the family, but uses Braose more than other forms, including for the William of this profile - Vol. III (Manchester University Press, 1925), pp. 72 and 340.

We have the ODNB also using Braose as one of the main spellings.

As is frequently the case, there is no single standard form for the name, and no absolutely right answer. All one can do is give one form as LNAB, one as current last name, and any other commonly found variants as other names. It is important to make sure we keep de Braose as one form of the name. I do not regard Richardson as definitive on these occasions. The preponderance of good sources go for Braose. Whatever we do on the LNAB, I believe we need to keep de Braose as the current last name.

posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley

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