Thomas II (Multon) de Multon
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Thomas (Multon) de Multon (abt. 1220 - bef. 1271)

Thomas (Thomas II) de Multon formerly Multon
Born about in Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Son of and
Brother of [half], [half], [half], [half] and [half]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Father of , , and
Died before before about age 51 in Englandmap
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Note: Caution. This Thomas is one of several Thomases in this family, which has more than one important branch. the branches, which both have Thomases, sometimes get confused.

Biography

Concerning the estimation of the birth year for this profile, in 1240, at the death of his father, he was already married to Maud/Matilda.[1] Concerning Thomas's wife Maud/Matilda Richardson has written that Maud de Vaux was probably born about 1225. "But these are mere guesses."[2]

Richardson in Royal Ancestry covers his daughter Aline (wife of William de Brewes, abt 1224-1290) under BREWES in Volume II. Aline died before 1267/8. Her son and heir was born about 1261. (So she may have been married to a man a similar age to her parents, which was not that unusual.)

For an old and short summary of Thomas's male line, the Gilsland line of the Multons, see Hutchinson for example.[3] A more recent pedigree and discussion is given Ferguson's CWAAS article "Barony of Gilsland" page 468. [4]

Ferguson gives Aline/Maud and Thomas two sons, Thomas and Hubert.

  • Thomas, the heir, died 21 Edward I (1293). This Thomas also is named as having two sons, Thomas and William.
  • Thomas, the next heir, died soon after 23 Edward I (1295), aged 28. His wife's name was Isabell.
  • Thomas, next in line, died 6th December 7 Edw. II., 1313. He was the first and only true Multon Baron of Gilsland in his own right, because his father and grandfather died before Maud de Vaux (his great grandmother) died, and his great grandfather had been Baron in her right, as her husband.
  • The line ended with his heiress, Matilda or Maud, marrying Ranulph de Dacre, the first Dacre lord of Gilsland.

The brother of Thomas, Lambert, is also the founder of a line of Thomases, who held Egremont and Moulton. (Also the father of Thomas and Lambert was named Thomas.) On the internet these lines are often badly confused.

Sources

  1. ↑ http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2007-07/1185301298
  2. ↑ http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/gen-medieval/2004-11/1101326637
  3. ↑ https://books.google.be/books?id=2X8gAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA499
  4. ↑ R.S. Ferguson, 'The barony of Gilsland and its owners to the end of the sixteenth century', TCWAAS, iv (1879- 80), 446-85, available online here.




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Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
I see that this Thomas has been given a new son which means he has two sons of the same name.
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
Looking through the large range of possible Thomas profiles in the wrong place, I think the best way to continue this line is first to make new "clean" profiles. If we find duplicates in other families they can be merged to the new ones.
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
I have been editing thinking this was a Multon, not a Morville. But given he is a son of a Multon, and there is a son in this family named Thomas de Multon, should the surname simply be changed? Not sure what the original intention of this profile was or where the death date comes from.
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
Multon-5 and De Moreville-13 do not represent the same person because: I am going to cancel my request for now because maybe some of the existing Thomases are clearly a fusion of different people already. Maybe the empty looking profile can be used.
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster-1279 Andrew Lancaster
Multon-5 and De Moreville-13 appear to represent the same person because: Clearly intended to be same. Part of bigger clean up needed in this family
posted by Andrew Lancaster

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