Category: Henderson-2297 yDNATesterWanted
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The problem
We have a yDNA disconnect between two branches of the family of Archibald Henderson (marr. Margaret McEwan, St Ninians, Stirlingshire) those of:
- - James Henderson (1813-1892)) and
- - his younger brother Archibald Henderson (1815-1869)
Background
We began this yDNA testing journey with y37, then y67 STR tests between two second cousins who share William, son of James. As all looked rosie in the garden, having solid matches to each other, although having no other matches y37 and up in the FTDNA database at all, Henderson or otherwise, it was time to expand the tested pool of Hendersons.
A tester down from James' brother Archibald was found, had a reasonable set of autosomal matches and was willing to upgrade to yDNA.
Unfortunately he was not a yDNA match to the above, but intriguingly, did have y67 and y111 marker matches to a known, well documented Henderson family from Perthshire.
So where is the disconnect?
We have subsequently walked the yDNA back from William son of James, to James himself by throwing a 3rd cousin of our testers into the mix ( descended from the above William's brother David), and now have a confirmed yDNA signature for James b. 1813.
And, as of March 2023, an excellent BigY match between the descendants of James Henderson to a descendant of Peter (Junkine) Jenkins (1818-1881)
Here's my blog post about this.
See the FTDNA Discover tool to see the current predicted timeframes for when the haplogroup tree branches developed
Plan of attack
Where to from here?
To solve this conundrum, and refine where exactly the Jenkins (Junkine etc) descendant who "met" Margaret McEwan around 1812 "fits" it would be great to find more Jenkins / Junkine yDNA tested lines.
In addition it would be good to find other Jenkins lines to test , eg
- - those of the nearby Stirlingshire Jenkins branches, as yet unconnected by paper-trail (see William Junkin (abt.1760-) below, a y111 match, not yet on BigY, but looking more distantly connected) and descendants of James Junkin who may belong to the Perthshire line (also see belo)
and still be good to
- - find more yDNA test volunteers from the untested lines of James' brothers William and John Henderson and
- - to confirm the signature for his brother Archibald's line.
Any takers?
- I have a yDNA test with your name on it free for you should you contact me and advise where you "fit".
To see who all is here on WikiTree who, at least in theory:
- carries Archibald Henderson Snr's yDNA, click here
Unfortunately it does rather look as if William's line has "daughtered out" and John's line looks increasingly unlikely to have any candidates, which leaves Archibald's.
OR
- carries Junkin/Jenkins line yDNA, click here
YOU can help by extending the descendant lines here on WikiTree, and by putting me in touch with anyone with further information on the whereabouts of likely test candidates.
Families of particular yDNA interest
We do know now that there are excellent yDNA matches to the Perthshire line of Peter Jenkins b. 1818, and as of Jul 2023, what looks to be a more distant yDNA match, not yet on BigY, to a Stirlingshire Jenkins line. (Sep 2023 update: The Stirlingshire line concerned is a parallel branch to the Perthshire line, but yes, still connected, just a lot further back in time)
Of particular interest for yDNA would be lines having descendants closer to Bridge of Allan / Lecropt than the Port of Menteith and Thornhill main haunts of this family. eg Patrick b. 1712 is on the list as his line is, to date, the only one found with descendants actually recorded around the Bridge of Allan and Lecropt, Stirlingshire. Perhaps one of those, or one of the as yet undocumented ones, "met" Margaret McEwan around 1812.
As above, I have a yDNA kit with your name on it should a suitable direct male line descendant of this family present themselves. Preferably one down from a sibling or even better, a more distant relative, of the Patrick Junkine who married Jane McNee
Progress on groupings from testing to date can be followed at this Jenkins DNA Stirlingshire /Perthshire WikiTree Page
atDNA matches
In addition to the yDNA focus here, there are also a heap of autosomal matches to descendants of two main families "of interest":
- - Patrick/Peter Jenkins (1751-) (married Mary Buchanan)
- - Robert Buchanan (abt.1712-) (married Janet Monteith)
along with several others. For these check out the two Brickwall pages for
and his wife
Any testers on any of these lines are welcome to join the FFLornaHen private DNA project at FamilyTreeDNA if you either testing yDNA or FamilyFinder there, or uploaded autosomal results from the company you tested at.
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