Help resolving Unmerged Match for Johannes/John Sturm/Storm

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I am trying to resolve a huge place-of-death discrepancy between two brothers with the same name & dates. Sturm-992 dies 10 Jan 1805 in Maryland, based on his will. The other. Sturm-642 dies 10 Jan 1805 in Plankstadt, based on Lothar Wesch's "Familien in Plankstadt 1650-1910" Can anyone access Wesch's book and verify what it says about Johannes Sturm, 1723-1805?? Or any other ideas about how to resolve this? The exact same death date raises questions. Is it possible that the Maryland info was entered into the Plankstadt familienbuch?

I appreciate any help! Many thanks.
WikiTree profile: Johannes Sturm
in Genealogy Help by AM Hayes G2G6 Mach 2 (22.6k points)

4 Answers

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fixed a few typos in the entire familiar, should be better
by Living Seifert G2G1 (1.6k points)
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Given names, preferred name and nicknames sometime confuse the author. mistakes cause issue in the entire tree.
by Living Seifert G2G1 (1.6k points)
Hi, James or anyone -- Is this (the inaccuracies) something that is known about Lothar Wesch's book? The person working on the Sturm-642 profile has sent me images out of Wesch's book, and they are as the person says -- showing birth in Klein Schifferstadt (aka Iggelheim) and death in Plankstadt on 10 Jan 1805. I have found some Plankstadt church books on FamilySearch, but I find translating from kurrent script slow going. So far, I have found a Johannes Sturm who dies in the 1780s.
Yes, as information accessabilities open, we will find copious amounts of newer data, which will assist all 'genies' as I call them. Another Great source to research are the State Universities and Federal/Congressional Libraries.
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The problem stems from no verifiable sources as well next to no explanatory info.  Specifically the data in the profile fields (particularly birth) do not agree with the lone unsourced statement in the biography at "abt 1744" which represents a generation after the field date, implied "certain", 25 Jan 1723. This profile cold easily represent father-son, uncle or nephew.

The two apparent sources shown are recently published in 1990 and 2009 what appears to be "Family Genealogies" which are typically unsourced or at best limited sourced. The 1990 is written in German. Both sources were published in Germany where its unreasonable to think the author had sufficient knowledge about early Maryland or Pennsylvania.

As far as Maryland and Pennsylvania is concerned in this period, Maryland initially extended well into Pennsylvania almost to York before 1763 (yet certainly to Hanover) when the Mason Dixon was surveyed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line#/media/File:Marycolony.png. The disputed lands originated when John Digges of St Mary's was granted 10000 acres in 1727 and had it surveyed in 1736.

One cannot solve the issue of this scantly provided profile merely on hearsay of what is told in the family genealogy publications unless there is by chance an unlikely primary source attached.

The only real solution is to detach with wiki links between both profile with a discussion in the "notes".  However with as limited info that exist, this can easily be done in sturm-992 maintaining the two so-called sources and ONLY info.
by Mike Williamson G2G Crew (390 points)
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Hey AM, I improved the GERMAN part of this conflation on the profile of Sturm-642 Johannes Sturm (1723-1788) ... I think the Palatine Migrant Sturm-992 will have to be detatched from the family, since at least for the most part, the parents and siblings seem to belong to the German fellow.

There is no death recorded for any Sturm/Storm 1805 in Plankstadt. So if this date is in the book, as you say, then the book is wrong. In the original church book his death is recorded in 1788 as given now on the profile.

Greetings, Danny

by Danny Gutknecht G2G6 Mach 8 (89.2k points)

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