How do I find my Native American Ancestor

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In my DNA profile it shows 1% Native American; however I have never found any native Americans in my genealogy. I thought my paternal side being French and of course my grandmother saying we were part Black Foot as the story was handed down to me. It seems the 1% is through my maternal side. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to trace this ancestor but had to ask maybe someone out there knows the DNA testing and science better than me.

Thank you

Edit: my French paternal grandmother told us the story and it seems possible given my New York Quebec French roots but can’t seem to locate this ancestor even after extensive building of my genealogy.
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in Genealogy Help by Andrew Simpier G2G6 Pilot (689k points)
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1% of anything is essentially meaningless for DNA-derived ethnicity estimates. It's well within the margin of error and could just be statistical noise.

(Plus, ethnicity estimates are just guesses anyway, based on whatever samples that company happened to use as their baselines.)

In genealogy, as in science, it's important to go where the sources take you, rather than starting from a conclusion and trying to find sources that confirm it.

Definitely follow the sources and 1% is not much to go on as you mentioned in the margin of error. I have not found any Native American genealogy yet in my direct lineage. The answers I’ve received are very helpful and insightful. Thank you laugh

I understand your curiosity, Andrew. I was taken aback when my DNA ancestry compositions showed Indigenous American of 11% with one company and 12.1% with another. I do have a great grandmother that I cannot trace back before the 1880 census. I hope to one day solve both mysteries, where she came from and what are the roots of my Indigenous DNA. Good luck!

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GEDmatch’s Eurogenes K13 Admixture Proportions by chromosome shows a 5.8 cM Native American segment on your chromosome 19.  That is a strong indication that you do have Native American ancestry.
by Peter Roberts G2G6 Pilot (712k points)
selected by Andrew Simpier

I never did understand dna too well. This is exciting as I know it’s there somewhere. I do think it’s on my paternal French side. Very interesting! Thank you for finding this result laugh

Oddly enough my mom and her 1st cousins dna has 1% which is possible it’s coming from both maternal and paternal.

Hi, Andrew. Just a cautionary note that much admixture estimation is, as Andrew noted uptopic, just that: a lot of guesstimation grounded in some baseline data, so conclusions have to be approached cautiously.

As one example, the Eurogenes project is, as you can guess by the name, focused mainly on European ancestry with sample cohorts selected accordingly. But those are also dated now: the Eurogenes Genetic Ancestry Project (http://bga101.blogspot.com/) ceased updating datasets at GEDmatch about six years ago.

Too, the GEDmatch "Admixture Proportions by Chromosome" reports values as percentages, not centiMorgans. So under Eurogenes K13 you show 5.8% "Amerindian" on Chr 19, not 5.8cM. In other words, there is no implied segment continuity at all, just that of the 3,105 SNPs K13 looks at on Chr 19, 5.8% are reported as most closely aligned to what Eurogenes uses as an "Amerindian" reference sample. Since the centiMorgan calculation differs between the male and female genomes (cMs are based on a probability of recombination events, or crossovers, each time a gamete is formed; they aren't a physical measurement), using sex-averaged values for such small DNA chunks as admixture represents just doesn't work. For example, Chr 19 calculates out to about 96cM for males, but about 127cM for females.

Just an aside, but Chr 19 has the highest density of protein coding genes of any human chromosome; on a genes-per-base-pairs basis, the density is over twice the genome-wide average and takes up more than 25% of the entire chromosome. Some genes are just phenotypic--hair color, eye color, etc.--and those can be useful in population genetics, but the genes dealing with function and health are typically not useful at all because that's the DNA we have, pretty much, entirely in common. 

Of the GEDmatch admixture calculators, a lot of folks, like Mercedes Brons, recommend the MDLP Project World22 calculator. It, too, hasn't been updated in a while, but you can read more about the datasets Vadim use and the sources from which he derives them at one of his 2012 blog entries. It offers an attempted breakdown into sub-continental populations more germane to Native Americans.

Truly, though, Native American autosomal DNA is very, very difficult to use for any genealogical purpose. It can certainly be used just like any other for recent generations, but very few Native Americans seem to have an interest in testing. For good reason. The nature of the Beringian diaspora and a possible southern immigration at approximately the same time meant that the relatively small founder populations in the Americas were essentially isolated for over 13,000 years; the new continental-level population spread from today's Alaska to the southernmost tip of Chile to Newfoundland to eastern Brazil. The people covered an area that's 28% of the world's landmass, an area 40% larger than Africa and about 4.25 times the size of all of Europe.

So for thousands of years the population had very little exogenous DNA introduced. Some hypotheses indicate that there were both northern and southern basal branches--the first from southern Siberia and the second from mainland Southeast Asia--and studies as recently as December 2019 (Pakstis, et al., Scientific Reports) indicate that, at most, we can identify nine groupings, genetically speaking, of all the founding populations in the Americas. So not only did the people begin to become much more admixed after the arrival of Europeans over 500 years ago, but still today someone having pre-Columbian Central American ancestry can be genetically indistinguishable--from the standpoint of origins--from one of the great Plains nations of Native Americans.

Admixture information can be interesting and, sometimes, even informative. But regardless of the source--whether one of the testing companies reporting "ethnicity" (a term I really wish the advertising companies hadn't talked them into) or one of the independently created tools at GEDmatch--it usually involves reference sets that are either individual or tiny clusters of SNPs, or segments way too small to be accurately usable for genealogy. And that's especially true for low or trace percentage amounts.

Finding out you show 10% East Asian admixture could be a big clue for genealogy research if it was unknown to you, but 1% "Amerindian" could as easily be the result of a 10g-grandfather who was a Spanish officer marrying an indigenous woman in Panama in 1600 as it is a 7g-grandmother who was of the Blackfoot Nation. Uniparental DNA--yDNA and mtDNA--have their uses in looking for NA origins, but that's a whole 'nuther discussion.
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Based on what you state for Native American, what does my GEDMatch admixtures suggest?  I’ve heard that Asian DNA can also indicate Native American?  Kit# US3457430. I attempted to attach an image of the results but am unable too.

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1% “Native”  may just show coincidence, not descendance, but if it’s correct you would be looking for someone at least six or seven generations ago. The Blackfoot have always lived in what are now Montana and Alberta, so very unlikely you are connected to them.   Some early Canadian settlers did marry Indian women and Catholic Church records usually identify them as such since they required Catholic baptism before performing a marriage.  I would be looking for marriage records for your earliest French Canadian ancestors for clues.
by Kathie Forbes G2G6 Pilot (884k points)
Of course, it also depends on the company, or if a tool was used. My dad having been from Bulgaria, in the old days the DNA companies used to show me as having 20% Native American ancestry. Don't worry, I knew this was wrong -- West Asian and Turkic used to be interpreted (in error) as Native American. That didn't change until pretty recently. Companies still don't quite know what to do with the Balkans but that's a different story.

Thank you yes

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Hi Andrew, look for DNA matches on the line you suspect has NA blood. My Greatgrandfather was only a small percentage Cherokee and his line had left the tribe. Through DNA cousin matches, I was able to find DNA descendants who never left the tribe and a paper trail to make the connections. You can't count on DNA matches as it dilutes quickly and is hit or miss whether you show any Indian DNA after a few generations. One sibling might have a small match while another sibling showed no match. You may find surprises too. One family I was researching as white and suddenly up pop Choctaw Indian role numbers again with a solid papertrail. My nephew was thought to be part Blackfoot through his mothers side but turns out he is part Choctaw. Keep looking, Good luck!
by Sherry Holston G2G6 Mach 2 (22.8k points)

Thank you very helpful and appreciated smiley

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