James (Hamilton) Hamilton Duke of Châtellerault
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James (Hamilton) Hamilton Duke of Châtellerault (abt. 1519 - aft. 1575)

Born about in Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotlandmap
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Husband of — married 23 Sep 1532 [location unknown]
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Died after after about age 56 in Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotlandmap
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Biography

Preceded by
James Hamilton,
1st Earl of Arran
2nd Earl of Arran
1529 - 1575
Succeeded by
James Hamilton,
3rd Earl of Arran
Preceded by
Vacant Title last held by Charles de Valois
Duke of Châtellerault
1548–1575
Succeeded by
Vacant Title next held by Diane de France
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James Hamilton, Duke of Châtellerault, 2nd Earl of Arran
James (Hamilton) Hamilton Duke of Châtellerault is a member of Clan Hamilton.

Family and Early Years

James Hamilton was the son of James Hamilton, 2nd Lord Hamilton and 1st earl of Arran, and his (second) wife Janet Beaton, the daughter of Sir David Beaton of Creich, Fife, Comptroller of Scotland, and the widow of Sir Robert Livingston of Easter Wemyss and Drumry.[1][2] James, born about 1519,[3] was ten years old when his father died and Sir James Hamilton of Finnart, his natural (elder) brother, became his guardian.[4] While still in his teens he became good friends with James V, and in 1536 accompanied him when he went to France to find a bride, also traveling with him in 1540 on his expedition to the western islands of Scotland.[5]

Near the end of 1939 James Hamilton came of age, and he lost no time in ridding himself of the guardian who had been unquestionably exploiting the estates he administered for his ward.[5] On 16 August 1540 he was one of the lords who helped to convict his former guardian of treason and saw him tried, convicted, and executed all in one day.[6]

The death of James V on 14 December 1543 ushered in a new period in James Hamilton's life. Because his grandfather, the first Lord Hamilton, had married Mary Stewart, sister to James III, James (the subject of this profile) was heir presumptive to the Scottish throne. This claim was initially disputed because there were questions about the legality of his father's divorce from his first wife, Elizabeth Home.[5] If the divorce was not valid, James would be considered an illegitimate son. Fortunately for James, however, his father's first marriage was held to be invalid because Elizabeth Home's first husband was still alive at the time of her marriage to James, 1st earl of Arran. On 11 March 1510 a formal divorce was granted and James Hamilton, 1st earl of Arran, was allowed to marry ab initio.[5][7]

Against the strong opposition of Cardinal Beaton and a group of nobles (which included James, earl of Moray, George, earl of Huntly, and Archibald, earl of Argyll), Hamilton (at the age of 23) was installed on 22 December 1542 as governor of the realm and tutor to the infant Mary, Queen of Scots.[8] He was confirmed in this office once again by parliament on 15 March 1543, and recognized as heir presumptive to the throne of Scotland.[9][10]

Regent of Scotland

As regent, Hamilton's powers were almost infinite. He controlled the great and the privy seals, was able to call parliaments, direct the privy council, appoint ambassadors and sign treaties, issue pardons and appointments, and completely control the military.[5] One of his first official acts (in January 1543) was to strip Cardinal David Beaton from the office of chancellor.[5] This was followed by the announcement that he was, himself, adopting the protestant faith.[5] He then arranged the release of a number of Scottish nobles who, having been imprisoned by England after the Battle of Solway Moss, had sworn allegiance to Henry VIII, and welcomed them home. He also welcomed the English ambassador, Sir Ralph Sadler, and indicated his support for a treaty between Scotland and England which would be the result of a marriage between the infant Mary and Prince Edward.[11]

Religious Affiliations

James Hamilton's tenure as regent was characterized throughout by the competing interests of catholicism vs. protestantism. At first determined to embrace protestantism and forge an alliance between Scotland and England, when John Hamilton (his natural brother), abbot of Paisley and a staunch Catholic, returned to England from France he did everything in his power to reconcile the regent with his nemesis, Cardinal Beaton, and bring him back into the Catholic fold and into an alliance with France.[12][11] The idea of a marriage between Mary and Prince Edward was not popular in Scotland, and among the common people Hamilton began to be referred to as "a heretic and an Englishman, [who] hath sold this realm."[13] For a while, the regent tried to appease both factions but he was under increasing pressure not to ally himself with England, and eventually was faced with the threat of French intervention. It was no longer possible to make all sides happy. The English ambassador wrote that "the governor is out of heart and out of courage"[14] and it was noted that "he begynneth a lytell to droupe."[5]

On 25 August, Hamilton confirmed a treaty with England.[15] By 3 September he had wavered, stealing away from Holyrood Palace to meet with Cardinal Beaton at Stirling. There, in the Franciscan convent, he renounced protestantism; received the forgiveness of the Catholic church; declared the treaty with England to be ended; and gave his eldest son to the Cardinal as a guarantee of his own loyalty.[11] The following day Mary was crowned queen of Scots, and both Beaton and Hamilton traveled to Dundee where they began executing protestant heretics.[5][16][17]

Political Alliances

Hamilton was beseiged on all fronts. Mary of Guise, the queen dowager, wanted to control the government herself and in June 1544 managed to convene a meeting of nobles who agreed to oust Hamilton as regent and replace him with the queen dowager.[11] Hamilton was ultimately able to quash this attack on his authority, but that merely caused Mary of Guise to continue her efforts more subversively. She wanted the alliance with France, supported sending the young queen to France for safety, and perhaps was even hoping for a marriage between young Mary and the dauphin.[11] Hamilton, at this time, was desirous of a marriage between the young queen and his own eldest son.[11]

When Henry VIII formally declared war against Scotland, Scottish forces suffered a series of defeats by the English army that left Hamilton's reputation severely tarnished.[5] He almost immediately entered into negotiations with France, who was also at war with England, for the mutual benefit of both nations. The young queen was sent to France; Hamilton in return received the duchy of Châtelherault,[18] was made a knight of the order of St Michael, and was promised that in the event the young queen died without an heir, Arran would be recognized by France as the next king of Scotland;[18] and a contingent of French troops sailed to Scotland to reinforce the Scottish forces.[5] The war was hard fought and both sides suffered many losses. Hamilton often found himself at odds with the French commanders and unable to control the French troops.[5]

Mary of Guise once again began looking for ways to become regent herself.[5] In December 1553 the French parliament declared the young queen Mary to be of age, something that was not supposed to happen until December of the following year when Mary turned twelve. Hamilton was forced to give up his guardianship (although he did not do so until 12 April 1554)[5][12] when Mary insisted on giving that position to her mother. [19]

Fall from Power

Following his abdication of the regency, Hamilton for the most part withdrew from public life although he did occasionally attend parliament.[5][20] He supported the government of the queen dowager but, after the capture of Edinburgh in 1559, decided he could no longer take part in persecuting those of the same religion as himself (having once more embraced protestantism).[11] He retired to Hamilton, but was unable to completely escape the politics of the time. The regent viewed him with suspicion, concerned that he might eventually try to usurp the throne, and attempted to discredit him at court.[11]

His eldest son's mental breakdown weighed heavily on him, and shortly after 1565 he was proclaimed a traitor (suspected of being involved in the same plot to kidnap Elizabeth which his son was connected with) and forced to flee across the border. He eventually obtained a pardon but only on condition that he spend five years in exile.[11] He went to France and spent the time trying unsuccessfully to regain his duchy there, which had been seized by the French king.[21] Shortly after his return to Scotland, his castles at Hamilton, Kinneil, and Linlithgow were razed to the ground during the civil war between factions supporting the Scottish queen and those supporting the English king.[22]

Marriage and Children

James married Lady Margaret Douglas, daughter of James Douglas 3rd Earl of Morton, and Catherine Stewart about 23 September 1532.[23] They had 5 sons and at least 3 daughters [see research notes]:

  1. James Hamilton, 3rd Earl of Arran; b. c 1537/8[24] d. Mar 1609[24]
  2. Gavin Hamilton; b. bef. 22 Oct 1542;[25] dsp. bef. Aug 1547[26]
  3. John Hamilton, 1st Marquess of Hamilton; b. c1542;[27] m. bef. 10 Feb 1578 Margaret Lyon[28][29] d. 26 Apr 1604[30]
  4. David Hamilton; b. c1543;[26] dsp. Mar 1611[26]
  5. Claud Hamilton, 1st Lord Paisley; b. c 1543;[31] m. 1 Aug 1574 Margaret Seton;[32] d. 1621[33]
  6. Barbara Hamilton, m. bef. 18 Jun 1553 Alexander Gordon, Lord Gordon;[34][35] m. aft. 22 Dec 1553 James Fleming, Chamberlain of Scotland[36][35]
  7. Jean (or Jane) Hamilton; m. aft. 13 Feb 1554 Hugh Montgomerie, 3rd earl of Eglinton;[37][35] m. dissolved 30 May 1562 & 25 Jun 1562[38]
  8. Anne Hamilton; m. bef. 24 Mar 1558/9 George Gordon, 5th earl of Huntly[39][3]

Death

James died in Hamilton, Lanarkshire on 22 January 1575[11][40] and his will was confirmed in Edinburgh on 16 June 1576[41][42]

Research Notes

James Hamilton's Daughters
  • Both John Anderson in his Historical and Genealogical Memoirs of the Hamilton Family,[43] and Robert Dunlop in the Dictionary of National Biography,[44] suggest that James Hamilton and Margaret Douglas had four daughters: Barbara, Margaret, Jean, and Anne. The eldest, Barbara, married James Fleming. The second eldest, Margaret, married Alexander Gordon, Lord Gordon. However James Balfour Paul and Douglas Richardson[3] list only three daughters: Barbara, Jean, and Anne. Paul states that Margaret was first contracted to marry Alexander, Lord Gordon, who died before 18 June 1553 (shortly after their betrothal),[34] and that she married (second) James Fleming by contract dated 22 December 1553.[36] In evidence of the fact that Barbara and Alexander Gordon were, however briefly, married, Paul cites one writ which refers to them as married, and another in which Barbara is referred to as his relict. In early December (before her marriage to James Fleming) she renounced all of her rights to the estate of Alexander Gordon. Thomas Henderson, in an entry for George Gordon, 4th earl of Huntly, also describes George's eldest son, Alexander, as marrying Margaret Hamilton.[45] In light of this, and lacking any source which proves the existance of a daughter named Margaret, this profile lists only the three daughters recognized by Richardson and Paul.

Sources

  1. Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), vol. 3, p.324 HOUSTON 15. James Hamilton.
  2. Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd ed. (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), vol. 2, p. 403 HOUSTON 12. James Hamilton.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), vol. 3, pp. 324-326 HOUSTON 16. James Hamilton.
  4. Hamilton Report, 53, cited in Paul, James Balfour. Edinburgh: D.Douglas (1904), vol. 4, p. 366.
  5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 Merriman, Marcus. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, entry for Hamilton, James, second earl of Arran and duke of Chatelherault in the French nobility (pub. 23 Sep 2004, rev. 25 Sep 2014), available online by subscription.
  6. McKean, Charles. Hamilton, Sir James of Finnart. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (23 Sep 2004), available online by subscription.
  7. Anderson, John. Historical and Genealogical Memoirs of the House of Hamilton. Edinburgh: by the author (1825), p. 91.
  8. Acts of Parliament in Scotland. ii. 411 (22 Dec 1542, appointing James Hamilton as tutor to Mary and governor of the realm).
  9. Acts of Parliament in Scotland ii. 593 (15 Mar 1542, confirming James Hamilton as tutor for the young Queen Mary and regent for Scotland).
  10. Miscellany of the Maitland Club. The Hamilton Papers. Glasgow: W. Eadie & Co. (1847), vol. 4, pt. 1, p. 64 ,Act settling the regency of Scotland and guardianship of the infant queen on James, earl of Arran.
  11. 11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3 11.4 11.5 11.6 11.7 11.8 11.9 Dunlop, Robert. Dictionary of National Biography, vol 24. Entry for Hamilton, James (d 1575).
  12. 12.0 12.1 Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1907), vol. 4, p. 367.
  13. Sadler, i. 216,234 cited in Dunlop, Robert. Dictionary of National Biography, vol 24. Entry for Hamilton, James (d 1575).
  14. Sadler, i. 260, cited in Dunlop, Robert. Dictionary of National Biography, vol 24. Entry for Hamilton, James (d 1575).
  15. Miscellany of the Maitland Club. The Hamilton Papers. Glasgow: W. Eadie & Co. (1847), vol. 4, pt. 1, p. 80 Letter to Henry of England from Arran 25 Aug 1543.
  16. Chalmers, George. Life of Mary, drawn from State Papers. London: John Murray (1818), pp. 403-404.
  17. Miscellany of the Maitland Club. The Hamilton Papers. Glasgow: W. Eadie & Co. (1847), vol. 4, pt. 1, p. 82, Sadler re destruction of Catholic home and churches in Dundee.
  18. 18.0 18.1 Miscellany of the Maitland Club. The Hamilton Papers. Glasgow: W. Eadie & Co. (1847), vol. 4, pt. 1, p.67.
  19. Anderson, John. Historical and Genealogical Memoirs of the House of Hamilton. Edinburgh: by the author (1825), p. 100.
  20. Anderson, John. Historical and Genealogical Memoirs of the House of Hamilton. Edinburgh: by the author (1825), p. 103.
  21. Stevenson, Cal. viii. 6, 19, 69, 91, cited in Dunlop, Robert. Dictionary of National Biography, vol 24. Entry for Hamilton, James (d 1575).
  22. Tyler, ix. 257, cited in Dunlop, Robert. Dictionary of National Biography, vol 24. Entry for Hamilton, James (d 1575).
  23. Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 6, p. 361.
  24. 24.0 24.1 Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 4, pp. 368-369.
  25. Hamilton Report, 21, cited in Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 4, p. 369.
  26. 26.0 26.1 26.2 Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 4, p. 369.
  27. Reg. of Deeds, vi(2). 6, cited in Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1907), vol. 4, p. 371.
  28. Historic MSS Commission. Manuscripts of the Duke of Hamilton. London: Eyre and Spottiswoode (1887), pp. 54-55, no. 113. Marriage contract between John Hamilton and Margaret Lyon, Countess of Cassillis.
  29. Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1907), vol. 4, p. 372.
  30. Anderson, John. Historical and Genealogical Memoirs of the House of Hamilton. Edinburgh: by the author (1825), p. 130.
  31. Reg. Mag. Sig., 24 Mar 1574/5, cited in Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 1, p. 37.
  32. Reg. of Deeds, xiii.f.154, cited in Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 1, p. 39.
  33. Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 1, p. 39.
  34. 34.0 34.1 Acts and Decreets, x.f.56b; Hamilton Report, 54, both cited in Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 4, p. 370.
  35. 35.0 35.1 35.2 Historic MSS Commission. Manuscripts of the Duke of Hamilton. London: Eyre and Spottiswoode (1887), p. 54, no. 112.
  36. 36.0 36.1 Acts and Decreets, x.ff.58,59, cited in Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 4, p. 370.
  37. Memorials, ii.148-151, cited in Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 3, p. 441.
  38. Memorials, ii.163-181, 183-185, cited in Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 3, p. 441.
  39. Reg. Mag. Sig., cited in Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 4, p. 541.
  40. Anderson, John. Historical and Genealogical Memoirs of the House of Hamilton. Edinburgh: by the author (1825), p. 117.
  41. Index of wills and testaments; Hamilton, James; 16/6/1576; Duke of Chastelherault, Earl of Arran; Testament Testamentar and Inventory; Edinburgh Commissary Court; CC8/8/4; from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
  42. Historic MSS Commission. Manuscripts of the Duke of Hamilton. London: Eyre and Spottiswoode (1887), pp. 53-54, no.110. Will of James Hamilton, 2nd earl Arran.
  43. Anderson, John. Historical and Genealogical Memoirs of the House of Hamilton. Edinburgh: by the author (1825), p. 118.
  44. Dunlop, Robert. Dictionary of National Biography, vol 24. Entry for Hamilton, James (d 1575).
  45. Henderson, Thomas Finlayson. Gordon, George (1514-1562). Dictionary of National Biography, vol. 22.

See also:

  • Blakeway, Amy. Regency in Sixteenth Century Scotland. Woodbridge: Boydell Press (2015), pp. 31-32.
  • Cokayne, George Edward. The Complete Peerage. London: George Bell and Sons (1892), vol. 4, p. 140.
  • Facsimile act of parliament declaring James, earl of Arran, lord Hamilton, second person of the realm and nearest to suceed to the crown, failing of their sovereign lady and her bairns, and therefore, her tutor and governor of the realm; Papers of the Montague-Douglas-Scott Family, Dukes of Buccleuch; National Records of Scotland; GD224/1048.
  • Gairdner, James (ed). Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, of the reign of Henry VIII. London: Mackie & Co. (1903), vol. 19(1), pp. 273-275. (letter written by James Hamilton to Christian III on behalf of Mary, Queen of Scots)
  • Hamilton, George. The House of Hamilton. Edinburgh: Skinner and Co. (1933), p. 14.
  • Keith, Robert. History of the Affairs of Church and State in Scotland. Edinburgh: Spottiswoode Society (1844), vol. 1, appendix pp. 361-363. (James Hamilton, 2nd earl of Arran, styled 'kinsman' (consanguineus) by Mary, Queen of Scots in 1558)
  • Laing, Henry. Descriptive Catalogue Impressions from Ancient Scottish Seals. Edinburgh: T. Constable (1850), p. 72.
  • Macdonald, William Rae. Scottish Armorial Seals. Edinburgh: W. Green (1904), p. 151.
  • Moncreiffe, Sir Iain of that Ilk. The Highland Clans. New York: Clarkson N Potter, Inc. (rev. 1982), pp. 99-102.
  • Report of the Royal Commission on Historical Manuscripts. Miscellaneous Papers. London: George Edward Eyre and WIlliam Spottiswoode (1877), vol. 6, p. 630, #216, granting remission for participation with James Duke of Châtellerault, earl of Arran, Lord Hamilton and his accomplices in his treasonable withholding from the crown the castles of Hamilton and Draffin....21 Mar 1565.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2013. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry

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I am going to be updating this profile on behalf of the Magna Carta Project and the Scotland Project. If anyone knows of additional material and sources which should be included, please message me or post here. Thanks,

Jen

posted by Jen (Stevens) Hutton
Is this the same person as Hamilton 1226?
posted by Deborah Barrone
Hi Deborah,

No, it is not. What is it exactly that makes you wonder that?

posted by Jen (Stevens) Hutton
They have the same father and both named James. Thanks.
posted by Deborah Barrone
I have removed duplicate images, including a grayscale print of the portrait that remains.
posted by Michael Cayley
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Thank you for removing the duplicates. Hamilton-1215.png for James Hamilton (abt.1475-abt.1529) was his last coat of arms (but it was removed).
James Hamilton Duke of Châtellerault and 2nd Earl of Arran. Arms on Seal. A description

See his image which remains (thank you), in the upper left-hand corner, Hamilton-23454-1 .

James Hamilton, 2nd Earl of Arran, Duke of Châtellerault

His previous coat of arms, Hamilton-1233.png for James Hamilton (abt.1515-1575) was his previous coat of arms (which was not removed, thank you) and is not a duplicate.

James Hamilton Duke of Châtellerault and 2nd Earl of Arran. Arms on Seal. A description

Please see image of text describing his 2 coats of arms, Hamilton-1233-1.png for James Hamilton (abt.1515-1575) (which remains, thank you).

James Hamilton Duke of Châtellerault and 2nd Earl of Arran. Arms on Seal. A description
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Thanks, really sorry about that. I have added him back to the image, but there is a limit to how many images show when you first look at a profile: you have to click on View All to see it. Do see what you can do to alter the order in which images appear on the profile. It may be that if you remove another image, it will appear when you first look at the profile, and then you could reinstate the image you have removed. But the image you remove would have to be one that is linked to someone else as well, otherwise it would become inaccessible - or else one that you could upload again yourself. I do not want to risk more trouble my playing around myself.

I completed a merge the other day, and the number of images meant that some weren't visible unless you clicked View All. I have a feeling this was one of them, but I may be misremembering.

posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
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Thank you very much, I understand.
posted by [deleted]
This profile is in a Richardson-documented trail between Gateway Ancestor Patrick Houston and Magna Carta surety barons Richard de Clare and Gilbert de Clare that needs development by the Magna Carta Project. I will soon be adding the project as co-manager of this profile and will add a project box and project section to the biography. This profile still needs to be developed against the project's checklist. Thanks!
posted by Traci Thiessen
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As for the confusion concerning the Hamilton Y-DNA and the Douglas Y-DNA.

In one instance of the Douglas Y-DNA: Y-DNA I-L338 for all of Walter Hamilton of Darngaber's male line? Possibly. (my early Great-grandfather, on my grandMother's side) Y-DNA is possibly I-Y6635 per Descendent of Walter Hamilton of Darngaber, (potentially one of my FTDNA matches). BOTH I-L338 (also known as I1a2a1a1a) and related I-Y6635 (also known as I1a3a1a1a1, Parent Branch: I-Y6624) are of Haplogroup I-M253 also known as I1 (a Y chromosome haplogroup). I-L338 is a well-known Haplogroup of the Douglases.

Walter Hamilton of Darngaber BIRTH 1392 • Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, DEATH 20 MAY 1441 • Trabzon, Trabzon, Turkey and his descendants were descended from the Douglases and not the Hamiltons.

Sources:

http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Thompson/ThompsonDNA-results.html

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Douglas?iframe=yresults

http://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=21060

https://haplogroup.org/ystory/i-y6635/

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/g/a/gah4/HamDNA/B1.pdf

(And it is not unreasonable to, at least, consider the uncle of Walter Hamilton (of Darngarber, not "of Cadzow") and John Hamilton of Fingalton as not being Hamiltons either as their Y-DNA has been compared. Assumptions to the contrary are very risky.)

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Hamilton-23454 and Hamilton-1233 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, similar dates and same parents.
posted by [deleted]
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Hamilton-23454 and Hamilton-1233 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, similar dates and same parents.
posted by [deleted]
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Please do not merge with Hamilton-1233 which is on a ending, dead male lineage. This line continues. Y-DNA = R1b1a1a2. https://www.geni.com/people/John-Hamilton/6000000003052516224?through=6000000000372342104

A change of mind, I will attempt to initiate a merge of Hamilton-23454 to Hamilton-1233.

posted on Hamilton-23454 (merged) by [deleted]
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Hamilton-1233 clearly represents James Hamilton 2nd Earl of Arran. The Geni link you posted above goes to a John Hamilton who was the son of the 2nd Earl of Abercorn - himself a descendant of Claud Hamilton (Hamilton-4637), son of James Hamilton 2nd Earl of Arran
posted on Hamilton-23454 (merged) by Sheena (Templeton) Tait
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Thanks. The link highlights the possible Y-DNA (assuming his brother and father have the same).
posted on Hamilton-23454 (merged) by [deleted]
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I will attempt to initiate a merge of Hamilton-23454 to Hamilton-1233.
posted on Hamilton-23454 (merged) by [deleted]
I am completing the merge. Thank you for proposing it.
posted on Hamilton-23454 (merged) by Michael Cayley
UNKNOWN-118180 and Hamilton-1233 appear to represent the same person because: From the bio of UNKNOWN-118180 he is intended to represent the 2nd Earl of Arran
Removed Janet Beaton as wife dates do not allow that as a possibility.
posted by Spencer MacPhail

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