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Name Field Guidelines

WikiTree's general name field guidelines say to "use their conventions instead of ours." Determining what someone used as their "Last Name at Birth" (LNAB) can be difficult, but a decision must be made because WikiTree profiles are uniquely identified based on their LNAB (e.g., Sample-7). To determine what to use in the LNAB field, WikiTree says that for people who "could fit within an established project consult with the project members and refer to project-specific style guides."

WikiTree's Style Guide — the official formatting standards and style conventions that our community has evolved — includes links to several Name Field Guideline pages (under "N"), but it is not comprehensive. The following is a more comprehensive list, and includes links to projects that manage the guidelines.

Note - Many of the guidelines listed below cover "Current Last Name" and married women specifically (when a married woman took her husband's last name, it is often the name in the "Current Last Name" field, but this is not always the case). See this G2G post (from 2020) for more information about when a married woman took her husband's surname. See also this G2G post (1 August 2023).

Still Developing

Unknown has its own project & recently posted in G2G a "refresher" on using Unknown as the LNAB.
Note - many G2G discussions are now including the tag naming_conventions, but discussions also are tagged names, surnames, LNAB, and style. For discussions of what to call a place, see the tag place_names.






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How do I create a list of my family members' wikitree ID #s? I would like a list of the name and ID # to make it easier to search.
Hi! That's not the subject area of this space page, but I'll try to help... perhaps the "Family Tree and Tools" page would have what you're looking for? Go to your own profile and click the tab at the top that says Family Tree and Tools (it's also in the dropdown menu under "My WikiTree" in the mini-menu at upper right on any profile page).

Good luck!

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Thank you so much for your help. I do have a partial list. I believe it was before the last update for the ancestor explorer? I have a list of my direct ancestors with 23 generations, that has about 2/3s of them. The more current list of 25 generations since the update, does not offer them in the printout. I will look where you said too. Thanks a bunch.
It can't be an "error" to use an apostrophe in a name (e.g. "O'Dell" if that is how the person, and all their sources, spell that name. HOW is that an "error"?
posted by C C Graham
Nothing on this page says that it is an error. Perhaps you used a "smart" (curly) apostrophe? See https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/839150/what-is-with-the-771-separators-last-name-birth-suggestions
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Is this an official help page or related to a specific project?

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Sweden_Project_-_Name_and_Location_Fields could probably be added here?

posted by Maggie Andersson
It is not an official help page (those are in the "Help" namespace), nor is it connected to a single specific project. I created it as an aid to finding project-specific guidelines. And yes, Sweden Project guidelines can most certainly be added here! I'll get right on that.

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I've added Sweden Project's guidelines. Let me know if the entry's ok or if it needs to be changed (or you could change it).

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Looks fine to me. Thanks for adding it.
posted by Maggie Andersson
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I am somewhat confused. I have looked at this section to find out if my conventions are acceptable.

I have all surnames in all caps. The name at birth is last with spouses in row before the NAB; example: First name, Middle Names, THIRD SPOUSE, SECOND SPOUS, FIRST SPOUSE, NAME AT BIRTH.

Is this acceptable?

posted by [deleted]
This page collects links to project-specific guidelines. For WikiTree-wide, general naming guidelines, please see Help: Name Fields. To answer your question, the name in the datafield for "Last Name at Birth" (LNAB) should be mixed case. From Help: Name Fields:
Use capitalization as appropriate. For example, McClellan instead of Mcclellan.
It is never appropriate to use ALL CAPS.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
It is a bit hard to communicate what I exactly meant so I have bee so free to adjust it a bit myself. If it is not to your standard please change it. Our problem at the moment is that half of the people know us by the old name and the other half is only looking for the word Netherlands. It is a bit much but this is the only way everyone will find it.

Thanks in advance

posted by Eef van Hout
I think how it is now addresses the problem...
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
hi Liz,

Could you please add the version of the dutch naming convention in dutch to the list? you can find it here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Dutch_Roots/Nederlandse_Naamconventie. And rename the link to the Dutch Roots Project in Netherlands Project (that's the name we are going by nowadays)

posted by Eef van Hout
edited by Eef van Hout
Hi! I was still working on editing the page when you made your edits. The convention used on this page is to lead with the guidance (main bullet) and list as subbullet(s) the project(s) responsible for the guidance & the project(s) for which the guidance is applicable. As such, I did not save your changes. Let me know if you would prefer that the entry be alphabetized under "Dutch" (instead of Nederlandse/Netherlands) & I'll switch the order of the main bullet & re-do the alphabetization.

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi,

sorry I interrupted your editing. Would it be possible to be mentioned under both the D for Dutch and the N for Netherlands. A lot of dutchies don't know the D variant and will be looking for Netherlands while the english speaking ones will look for the other one.

posted by Eef van Hout
no problem. there is an entry under D ...

... which has a clickable link to the full entry under the "N"s. Is that OK? I'd rather not have duplicate entries under both D and N.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Is part of the problem not having "Dutch Roots" in the text? If so, I could add a subbullet under the Dutch entry:
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Also, we could add to the subbullet currently in the N entry...
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
All of it would be perfect. That way no confusion is left. Perfect!!! ........ and thanks!
posted by Eef van Hout
I am adding my ancestors that did not use a surname in their lifetime for they were Native American and Full Bloods, it was not until the later part of the 1800's that the children of these full bloods were forced to use a surname...
posted by Josiah Hair
Hi! The link in the list to Native American Naming Conventions goes to the appropriate section on the Native Americans Project:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Native_Americans#Name_Fields_Guidelines

which says: "WikiTree's underlying technology requires an entry in the "Last Name at Birth" field. It is the policy of WikiTree's Native Americans project to use this field to record the tribe or nation name for those individuals born before the introduction of surnames. For example, Pocahontas was a member of the Powhatan people. Her profile is Powhatan-3."

Check with the project if you have further questions (if you post your question in G2G, be sure to tag it native_americans - native_americans

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
The Australian Project has been working on these and they appear to have been approved

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Indigenous_Australian_Naming_Conventions

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1147766/guidelines-australias-nations-people-should-adopted-policy

Is there a process for making them official. It has been a lengthy process to get this far.

posted by [Living Ross]
Hi! This page collects guidance published by projects on naming conventions observed by the project. It's sufficient for this page that the guidance is project-approved. From what I understand, to make the guidance official WikiTree policy, it would need to be on a Help page. Except for two pages - overall WikiTree guidance (Help: Name Fields) and EuroAristo guidance (Help: Name Fields for European Aristocrats) - the pages listed here are Space pages (this page also includes links to relevant G2G discussions).

I'll get Australia's added in a minute. Thanks for letting me know & Congratulations!

Cheers, Liz

P.S. Let me know if you'd like both the Space page & the G2G discussion listed.

update - found another Help page - Help:Name Fields for Czech Names

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I thought we had Poland Project name guidelines, but apparently not. See this G2G discussion:

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1121611/whats-the-naming-convention-for-polish-feminine-lnabs

And this older one (from July 2020)

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1070028/polish-surnames

AND - found it... see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Poland/Resource_Library#Polish_Naming_Conventions

(I'll add it to the main page later today.) - done.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
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posted by Louis Heyman
My Mother's lineage is primarily German, and as I understand the naming convention was the first name was a Saint, ie: Johann for John, Maria for Mary.. the Second name was their given name, followed by the Family surname, and sometimes followed by Von (meaning from) their town or district, such as "Von Meirhelm". Also I have one with name "Nickel" or "Nicholas".. which should be entered, or how to do both?
posted by Jerry Corkins
one comment of note in this answer in the Korean name G2G discussion is the reminder that the name should be shown in the language of the person - to include the written representation of that language when appropriate. (e.g., Korean characters for people born in Korea).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
ps - I have not found a page for Irish Naming Conventions posted by Irish Roots Project, but there are links to the project & G2G discussion on this page (under Still Developing, at left).

There's also a more recent, profile-specific G2G post.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Thanks Isabelle - posted.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi!

Please consider adding French naming conventions to this space - it's already linked from the French Roots project page and I believe would be suitable for the French-speaking part of Belgium as well. Thank you ! Isabelle

Yes. I put in the Korean Naming Convention suggestion based on my frustration with trying to create a few Korean Profiles, only to find out that the profiles existed using multiple naming conventions. It could just be a link on this page. It might attract more Korean participants if we had a standard way of doing profiles.
posted by [Living Moore]
see this G2G post about a draft for Korean naming standards, but there does not appear to be an existing WikiTree project for Korea.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Can we have a separate listing for Irish naming conventions, have recently seen a profile for which I proposed a merge with the request to follow the father's Anglo/Irish ie Norman French name. The merge went through with earlier name as LNAB only to be changed a few weeks later by another party to the English version by which descendants are known in English literature.
posted by Valerie Willis