no image
Privacy Level: Open (White)

James Carter (1670 - bef. 1715)

James Carter
Born in Middlesex, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1700 in Bucks, Pennsylvaniamap
Descendants descendants
Died before before age 45 in Southampton Township, Bucks, Pennsylvaniamap
Profile last modified | Created 4 Aug 2011
This page has been accessed 4,186 times.
William Penn
James Carter was a part of William Penn's Pennsylvania Settlers community.
Join: William Penn and Early Pennsylvania Settlers Project
Discuss: penn

Contents

Biography

This profile is part of the Carter Name Study.

Based on an estimated age of twenty-five at his marriage in 1702, James Carter was likely born about 1677. His wife, Susannah Griffith, was a daughter of John Griffith and his wife Katherine.

On 6 August 1702, John Griffith sent word to the Middletown Monthly Meeting that he wanted “to have friends advise what he must do concerning his daughter Susanna she haveing intangled to marry with one that is not of our Society” and “that he thinks it will be hard to part them.” The meeting advised him to “keep clear & not consent to them and if she will not hearken to him, to take some friends with him to discourse her about it that She may be prevailed with if possible.”[1]On 3 September 1702, the women appointed by the Middletown Monthly Meeting to speak with Susannah Griffith about her “concern” reported that “shee seemes not willing to give up the matter although contrary to friends and her Parents minds.”[2]

On 9 October 1704, Francis White sold 250 acres in the township of Solebury, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, to “James Carter of Southampton in the said County Blacksmith.” [3]

On 26 December 1706, John Griffith of Southampton, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, sold his son-in-law “James Carter of ye place and County aforesaid Blacksmith” 250 acres “except a certain part of ye buildings and improvements which ye said John Griffith doth hereby reserve to himself for his own proper use during his natural life and ye natural like of Katherine his wife (that is to say) ye east end of ye dwelling house with ye field and garden adjoining thereunto and also a certain piece of ye meadow.”[4]

On 24 February 1709/10, James Carter sold land he had purchased from Francis White to George Brown. He was described in the deed as “James Carter of Southampton in ye County of Bucks & province of Pensilvania Blacksmith.”[5]

James Carter made his will 1 December 1714. He described himself as “of Southamton in the County of Bucks in the province of Penssilvania.” In his will, he mentioned his “well beloved wife Susannah Carter,” eldest son William Carter, son John Carter, and his five Youngest Children” James Carter, Richard Carter, Joseph Car, Benjamin Carter, and Ann Carter. To his son William Carter, he left “all that Two hundred acres of Land now in my possession bought of my Father in Law John Griffith.” He left his son John Carter “all that fifty acres of Land which I Lately purchased from Samuel Griffith.” His will was proved 15 march 1715/5, and the executors were Jeremiah Langhorne and John Cutler.[6]

Research notes

  • The Watson marriage record URL does not work.
  • The Katheder source is behind a paywall; if anyone has access, please provide a transcript or else a detailed description of what the source has in it.

Old Biography

Until this bio makeover is complete, and for reference, the 'old' bio is listed below:

James was a Friend (Quaker)

James Carter, "of Bucks County, Pennsylvania."[citation needed]

Uncertain Origins

James was born between 1670 and 1680 in England.[7][8] His parents are not known.[7]

Many authors, including Myers et al., in Some Old Families of Clarke County Virginia, have reported that James was a son of William Carter, Quaker of Philadelphia, and his unknown first wife. and that James immigrated in 1682 aboard the Providence with his father and step-mother Katherine (William's 2nd).[9] The problem with this theory is that William Carter left a will in which he did not mention a son named James. The author's explanation is that William gave his son a Bucks County farm and cattle at the time of his marriage to Susannah Griffith, with the understanding that this was in lieu of any inheritance.

The is problematic, because typically, in this sort of case, a token sum was bequeathed so that the son or his widow, or children could not later bring a court claim to invalidate the will. This William Carter had no known living children, and did not name any James Carter in his 6-page will.

Detached William Carter (WikiTree William Carter) (and William Carter) from James as his father. William had no known living children (none were mentioned in his 6 page will).

Family

James married to Susannah Griffith.[7]

Children were six sons and one daughter:[7]

  1. William Carter b ca 1700 in Bucks County, PA
  2. John Carter b ca 1702 in Bucks County, PA
  3. Joseph Carter b ca 1704 in Bucks County, PA, d 1781 Bucks Co, PA
  4. Benjamin Carter b ca 1705 in Bucks County, PA
  5. Richard Carter b ca 1710 in Bucks County, PA
  6. James Carter b 1711 in Southampton Twp., Bucks County, PA

The WeRelate website adds the daughter, Ann (b c. 1702-4 Byberry, Bucks Co., d 1801-2); no source for the information is revealed.[10] Thomas Katheder, writing for The Virginia Genealogist, reports that there was one daughter, unnamed.[7]

The four younger sons: Joseph, Benjamin, Richard, and James migrated to Orange County (later Frederick County), Virginia, possibly as early as 1740 and at least by ca 1742. According to Myers et al., they probably went with Alexander Ross and Morgan Bryan.[9] Richard continued on to South Carolina in the 1760's. Benjamin died as a fairly young man, but not before leaving descendants who became the southern and Missouri branches of the family.[7][11] ( Joseph returned, for unknown reasons, to Bucks County where he died in 1781).[7]

Quakers

James and Susannah were Quakers and members of the [Opeckan Friends].[7]

Occupation

Several of the family were millers, including James' son, Joseph and his sons.[7] The family was involved in manufacturing.[12]

Land Records

Said to be the first record of James, is the deed from 29 October 1704 (written in the Quaker method as "twenty ninth day of the eight month Anno Domini one thousand seven hundred and four 1704"). In this deed, James Carter, "blacksmith,"bought 250 acres of land in Solebury Township, Bucks County, from Francis white for sixteen pounds and twelve shillings.[13]

Death & Legacy

James died before March 15, 1715 at Southampton Township, Bucks County, Pennsylvania.[7] James' will was proved March 15, 1714 at Southampton, Bucks County, Pennsylvania (Book 1, Page 35).[14]

Several of James' sons and their families removed from Bucks County, Pennsylvania to Frederick County, Virginia before 1736 where they settled on the east side of the Opequon.[12] They established a tavern, a distillery, and several mills.[12]

James was born about 1670.

Sources

  1. U.S., Quaker Meeting Records, 1681-1935, database with images, Ancestry, Minutes of Middletown Monthly Meeting, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, 6 August 1702, (accessed 16 June 2021); citing Friends Historical Library, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, Pennsylvania.
  2. U.S., Quaker Meeting Records, 1681-1935, database with images, Ancestry, Minutes of Middletown Women’s Monthly Meeting, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, 3 September 1702, (accessed 16 June 2021); citing Friends Historical Library, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, Pennsylvania.
  3. Bucks County, Pennsylvania, Deeds, 1684-1866, images, FamilySearch, Deed from Francis White to James Carter, 9 October 1704, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, (accessed 16 June 2021); citing Bucks County, Pennsylvania, Deed Book 3, page 228.
  4. Bucks County, Pennsylvania, Deeds, 1684-1866, images, FamilySearch, Deed from John Griffith to James Carter, 26 December 1706, (accessed 16 June 2021); citing Bucks County, Pennsylvania, Deed Book 5, page 8.
  5. Bucks County, Pennsylvania, Deeds, 1684-1866, images, FamilySearch, Deed from James Carter to George Brown, 24 February 1709/10, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, (accessed 16 June 2021); citing Bucks County, Pennsylvania, Deed Book 4, page 122.
  6. Bucks County, Pennsylvania, Wills, 1713-1906, FamilySearch, The Will of James Carter, 1714, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, (accessed 16 June 2021); citing Bucks County, Pennsylvania, Will Book 1, page 35.
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 7.6 7.7 7.8 7.9 Katheder, Thomas, "James Carter Sr. (1743-1812) of Loudoun County, Virginia: Newly Discovered Family Bible Helps Unravel Carter Conundrum." Vol 41 1997, Pages 83-86) The Virginia Genealogist. Washington, DC: J. F. Dorman, 1957 - 2006. (Online database accessed February 6, 2015. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009.)
  8. Watson, Brenda B., "Black - Howe Family: James Carter", citing Carter Cousins 1681-1989, Vol. 1 "Some descendants of James Carter & Susannah Griffith, Quakers of Bucks County, Pennsylvania" by Eberle & Henley, 1989, Web accessed August 16, 2014. Note: the URL listed here does not point to the source.
  9. 9.0 9.1 Myers, Lorraine F. et al., Some Old Families of Clarke County Virginia. (page 63) Berryville, VA: Virginia Book Co., 1994.
  10. [1] May 19, 2010, accessed February 6, 2015
  11. Potts, Thomas M., Bi-centenary memorial of Jeremiah Carter, who came to the province of Pennsylvania in 1682, containing a historic-genealogy of his descendants down to the present time. Canonsburg, Pa: self published, 1883
  12. 12.0 12.1 12.2 Wayland, John W., Hopewell Friends history, 1734-1934, Frederick County, Virginia; records of Hopewell Monthly Meetings ... (Pages 168-69) Joint Committee of Hopewell Friends, Strasburg, VA: Shenandoah Publishing [c1936] Hathi Trust accessed September 25, 2014
  13. Nix, Lyndon, "Carters from Frederick Co. Va. and S.C." RootsWeb post 31 Aug 1998, accessed 30 September 2014
  14. Lynn, Betty, indexer, ["Wills: Abstracts: Books A and 1 : Bucks Co, PA 1685-1739"], USGenWeb Archives, accessed September 30, 2014

See also:

  • 7th Great Grandson, Michael F. Payne Sr




Sponsored Search by Ancestry.com

DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with James: Have you taken a test? If so, login to add it. If not, see our friends at Ancestry DNA.


Comments: 27

Leave a message for others who see this profile.
There are no comments yet.
Login to post a comment.
The order and dates of birth in the old bio are probably not correct. Naming convention - oldest son was named after paternal grandfather, second son after maternal grandfather then third son after father. The older four sons were probably: 1) William born about 1703 - the year after his parents married. 2) John born about 1705, the two oldest sons are listed in father's will as inheritors of land. 3) James born about 1706 was named after his father, he would have managed the rest of the acreage that William did not inherit including the land his grandfather John Griffith had set aside, he married Hannah Chenowith after moving to VA. 4) Joseph born about 1708 - there was no land available for him to manage in PA. He was the first to move to Orange County, VA along the Opequon River. His brother James moved a few years later. Eventually Benjamin, Richard and half-brother Robert Heaton III all owned some land in Orange County, VA (now Frederick County). After several of his brothers passed away Joseph left his land and mills in VA to his oldest son and moved back to PA with his younger children to care for his elderly mother Susannah. Susannah outlived two husbands and most of her children.
posted by P Carter
edited by P Carter
Please add Joseph Carter Carter-2577 as son of this family. Thank you.
posted by Janne (Shoults) Gorman
John Carter-40804 should be added as the second son of James and Susannah. I have tried several times, but I am locked out. He married Alice Nelson.
posted by P Carter
There were at least two (or three) William Carter original immigrants to Pennsylvania. William Carter of Wapping's will dated 6 Nov 1738 and proved 16 Mar 1739 lists kinsman Robert Carter of Bucks Co. and kinsman William Carter deceased. The three Carters were likely cousins with the second and older William Carter being James' father. Robert Carter acquired land in Bucks Co. east of the Neshaminy Creek in 1685, his daughter (unnamed) married John White before 1700. John White also owned land east of Neshaminy per the 1687 Thomas Holmes map of PA. John Griffith acquired land on the west side of Neshaminy creek north of the falls in 1696.

In the 'Bi-centenary memorial to Jeremiah Carter etc.' by Thomas Maxwell Potts (cited above) on pages 17 & 18 of chapter 1 there is mention of Katharine Carter as wife of William Carter also an Elizabeth Carter as wife of William Carter who died in 1718. Katharine or Elizabeth were prossibly James Carters' mother. Thomas Potts lists ten Carter original immigrants, but fails to mention a second William Carter. Edward, Thomas, George, William, John, and Richard; some were brothers, some juniors, all were likely cousins . All ten appear to have migrated from London or near London. They were probably related to the William, Thomas and Ancell Carters associated with Oakes Farm in Kempston, Bedfordshire, England from the 1500's to the 1600's.

Another possibility is Easingwold, Yorkshire, England where there were several generations of William, Robert, Thomas and John Carters of whom those born in the 1660 to 1680 timeframe often are listed with unknown date and place of death suggesting migration. In many cases there seems to be one generation of information missing. Henry VIII and his daughters Mary and Elizabeth created religious whiplash in England - Catholic, then Church of England back to Catholic then back to Church of England. The Christ Church in Philadelphia was an offshoot of the Church of England. James and Susannah's son John married Alice Nelson in this Christ Church.

posted by P Carter
edited by P Carter
James Carter blacksmith of Southampton Township in Bucks County, PA had other children with Susannah - William who married Sarah Plumly inherited 200 acres, John (Carter-40804) who married Alice Nelson inherited 50 acres, and Joseph who married Catherine Duncan. Four Carter sons purchased land along Opequon River in Orange (now Frederick) County, VA - Joseph, James II, Benjamin and Richard. per 'Carter Cousins 1681 - 1989 Descendants of James Carter and Susannah Griffith Quakers of Bucks County, PA' by Marie Thompson Eberle and Margaret Shipp Henley.

Please add the additional sons

posted by P Carter
edited by P Carter
Is there any objection to me cleaning up the rest of this profile and removing the sources that are not relevant for this James?
posted by Jason Lee Edwards
I'd prefer that we leave the 'old' bio alone and develop the new bio as much as possible. Once the new bio is done we can then remove the other bits. But some shouldn't be removed completely but should be assigned to the research notes because there are bad bios out there that will come to Wikitree again. It is best if we explain that x info was in the bio but was proven incorrect and was removed. Then new Treers can see that if they have matching info for the 'removed' bits that it shouldn't be put into the new bio.

For now, lets develop the new bio to the fullest we can until we've exhausted all leads.

posted by SJ Baty
Makes sense to me. I think I have done all I can. To my knowledge, I have added all of the primary source material that refers to this James Carter. I know that there is some secondary source info out that there, but it all refers back to the same primary sources.

There is some stuff like "James and Susannah were Quakers and members of the [Opeckan Friends]" (along with the Quaker sticker) that is demonstrably false.

Also, "Occupation Several of the family were millers, including James' son, Joseph and his sons.[7] The family was involved in manufacturing." is not really pertinent to this profile but could be moved to his son's profile. The deeds show that he was a blacksmith by trade.

And the sections "Land Records" and "Death & Legacy" are redundant since those facts are mentioned and sourced in the bio.

posted by Jason Lee Edwards
Post to the G2G that you've done this and lets give it a bit if no one complains we'll move to the next step.
posted by SJ Baty
It would be fine with me as long as the information is correct. The old bio would remain in the changes pages.
posted by Michael Stack
I added a "new" biography with primary sources. Hopefully, this will help us to keep clear which James Carter is the subject of this profile.
posted by Jason Lee Edwards
Mixed up mess - the James Sr that T. Kathedar mentioned married Hannah Eblen, lived in western Loudoun County near Unison (Southfork), he died in 1812. The Bible belonged to his youngest son James Jr who married Sarah Jane Myers in 1811, they later moved to Columbus Ohio, then Indianapolis Indiana and finally settled near Carthage Missouri. Speculation is that James Srs father was John Carter son of James and Susannah Griffith Carter Heaton. John Carters wife was Alice Nelson Carter Yates daughter of Henry Nelson and Alice Hayhurst. Alice and her second husband Joseph Yates moved the blended Carter Yates clan to Loudoun about 1746. Alice Yates jr married Isaiah Myers in Loudoun County. More documentation is needed.
posted by P Carter
I was going to add this as a reply to Jean's comment but it seems enough of an issue to warrant its own comment. In looking at the sources of this profile, there are some very good sources listed but are they even for this profile?

The source:

Katheder, Thomas, "James Carter Sr. (1743-1812) of Loudoun County, Virginia: Newly Discovered Family Bible Helps Unravel Carter Conundrum." Vol 41 1997, Pages 83-86) The Virginia Genealogist. Washington, DC: J. F. Dorman, 1957 - 2006.

is used 9 times to cite facts in this profile. The source is behind a paywall. When it was added to this profile was this article consulted or were these facts copied from another webpage that used this source? If the prior, we need a paraphrase of the publiction. If the latter, we have an incorrect source.

The problem with Katheder is apparant just by looking at the title of the publication. "James Carter Sr. (1743-1812). The James Carter of this profile was born in 1670 and died in 1715. Jame's son (currently attached to this profile) is born in 1704 and died in 1758. He also had a son, James Jr. (would make James 1704-1758 James Sr.?). Certainly, this source is not for this profile.

Was this source added when James was presupposed to be a Quaker?

I think we will need to start from scratch with this profile and re-examine everything and determine if we have the correct dates, family, sources, etc.

posted by SJ Baty
Looks like the results of G2G didn’t get implemented. Do you want to review and make necessary change? Or, I can since I can access Katheder.
posted by T Stanton
Sorry, SJ, looking at this again maybe we did make the major corrections?
posted by T Stanton
The "of Bucks County" in the nickname field isn't particularly appropriate for the name fields it should only be part of the bio.
posted by SJ Baty
I find no record of James Carter being a Quaker. In 1702, the Middletown Monthly Meeting noted that Susannah is "removed in relation to marriage with a man that has no profession of truth". There are no Quaker records of Susannah or James after this date, nor records of the birth of their children. The first record was of Susannah marrying Robert Heaton in 1720. The book "Bi-centenary memorial of Jeremiah Carter, who came to the province of Pennsylvania in 1682, containing a historic-genealogy of his descendants down to the present time" mentions a Susanna Carter marrying Robert Heaton, but has her married to a Henry Carter. I do believe that some of their children may have gone to Virginia, but unlikely that James and Susanna did.
posted by Jean (Jenks) Adams
edited by Jean (Jenks) Adams
I am not able to access any of the sources that purport this marriage. Some are behind paywalls, some don't link to the supossed source. This very much highlights the need to include a transcription of what the source says so that years down the road when the link is broken, we can know what it said.

Unfortunately, I believe that far too many Treers add sources to profiles that don't really match the profile.

This profile will probably need to be picked apart from the beginning and re-written.

posted by SJ Baty
Carter-16977 and Carter-3615 appear to represent the same person because: Birth location, wife, date and location of death match
There is no proof that William Carter is the father of this James Carter.
posted by Michael Stack
Don't know whether this is a complete list, William is listed aboard the Providence, but not James. http://chester.pa-roots.com/misc/individual_ships_of_penn.htm

This RootsWeb post again says the parents of James are unknown. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CARTER/1998-08/0904597343

Would love to know where we could find the deed record of William giving James a farm.

posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
If we read the biography here then William Carter (carter-8653) is likely to be the father of James (Carter-8652) and James Carter (Carter-3615) is the same man as (Carter-8652)
posted by Michael Stack
Carter-3615 and Carter-8652 are not ready to be merged because: Are we sure this is the same James Carter? James Carter who married Susannah Griffith had unknown parents. William Carter, Quaker of Philadelphia, had no known living children (probably should be detached from profile of Carter-3615) unless there is some additional evidence.
posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
The parents of James are unknown, and also William had no known living children (none mentioned in his 6 page will) https://archive.org/stream/bicentenarymemor1883pott#page/16/mode/2up

Should James be detached from William as his father?

posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
Is it possible that his is the same person as the James Carter in Carter-3615? Same name, same death place, one year apart (old and new dating systems?)
posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
Carter-3615 and Carter-8652 are not ready to be merged because: The only reason I am postponing is to make sure we have the lowest numbered profile of the correct last name at birth. These are definitely the same person, and should be merged.
posted by Cynthia (Billups) B

Featured Eurovision connections: James is 30 degrees from Agnetha Fältskog, 25 degrees from Anni-Frid Synni Reuß, 23 degrees from Corry Brokken, 19 degrees from Céline Dion, 25 degrees from Françoise Dorin, 25 degrees from France Gall, 25 degrees from Lulu Kennedy-Cairns, 23 degrees from Lill-Babs Svensson, 18 degrees from Olivia Newton-John, 28 degrees from Henriette Nanette Paërl, 29 degrees from Annie Schmidt and 15 degrees from Moira Kennedy on our single family tree. Login to see how you relate to 33 million family members.