Would you like to clean up this profile?

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This profile is a mess! I would truly love for someone who has the time and expertise to clean this up. I'm sure we could all use the knowledge gained from looking at the results. Multiple merges and lots of information. It's daunting. You would need to be pre-1700 certified and an experienced wiki-treer.
WikiTree profile: Philippe Mius
in Genealogy Help by Jacqueline Girouard G2G6 Mach 7 (76.1k points)
It is also helpful if you speak (or write) French.
Ha! True but there are 2 biographies, one in French and one in English. We could ask a French-speaking person to check the French version, right?

I've tried to translate the French version, but it is not very pretty:

Philippe Mius, 1st baron of Pobomcoup 1 (1601-1700) is also known under the name of "Sieur" (Lord) Philippe Mius d'Entremont (ref: Email from R. Charron-Chénier - 7 january 2004)

He may be the son of Béatrice Coligny d'Entremont and Claude Antoine Mius.

Philippe Mius, baron of Pobomcoup and François Virginie Bon, count of Entremont and Montbel are not the same person (ref: (1) email from Mike Talbot - 21 feb 2006; (2) Source of the confusion: email from Gabriel Bourgeois - 4 november 2011, establishes proof that they are two different people).

Birth: He was born 14 November 1601 at Cherbourg, Normandie, France (ref:  (1) Internet - e-mail from "Serrod" deTreville (vert@compuzone.net), (2) Email from Gabriel Bourgeois - 4 november 2011 (1600-1609) )

Marriage: He marries Madeleine Helie in 1648 at “Calvados, Normandie” (Personal note: as Calvados refers to a department created in 1790, I don’t know what this means. I don’t see to which place it could refer in 1648). (ref: Internet - e-mail from vert@compuzone.net, 6 september 2002). Philippe Mius, baron of Pobomcoup is “major” of Charles de La Tour (ref: (1) Internet - e-mail from "Serrod" deTreville (vert@compuzone.net), (2) Email from R. Charron-Chénier - 7 january 2004 (lieutenant-major and commander of troops))

Emigration to New France: Philippe immigrates to Acadia, Canada in 1651 during the return trip of Charles de La Tour in 1651 (ref: Email from R. Charron-Chénier - 7 January 2004). He establishes Pubnico, Cap Sable, Acadia (ref: Internet - e-mail from "Serrod" deTreville (vert@compuzone.net)). In 1653 the family lived at Pobomcoup, Acadia: Philippe, Madeleine Hélie and Marguerite (ref: Internet - e-mail from "Serrod" deTreville (vert@compuzone.net)).

Philippe was named “Procureur Général du roy” (Note: as I don’t know what his functions were, won’t attempt to translate) in Acadia in 1670 (ref: same as above). In 1671,  Philippe, Madeleine, and their children Philippe, Abraham, Jacques, Marguerite, lived at Pobomcoup. Philippe owned 26 horned beasts, 29 sheep, 12 goats, 20 pigs and six acres of cultivated land (same ref).

He left Pobomcoup after a group of Dutchmen looted his property after 1675 (ref). In 1678 Philippe, Madeleine and the children: Philippe, Marguerite, Abraham and Jacques, lived at Port-Royal, Acadia (ref). In 1679 he lives in Beaubassin, Acadia (ref).

In 1684 he lives at Port-Royal (ref). In 1687 he lives and Grand-Pré, Acadia (ref).

Death: He passed away in 1700 at Grand-Pré (ref). Clément Cormier (ref: Clément Cormier, “MIUS D’ENTREMONT, PHILIPPE,” in Dictionary of Canadian Biography, vol. 1, University of Toronto/Université Laval, 2003–, accessed May 17, 2014 – links) describes his legacy:

"D’Entremont played an important part in the colony’s history both because of what he did as an administrator and because he was one of the rare Acadian seigneurs to concern himself with cultivation and with clearing land; he attracted to his estate “several indentured workers and a few families from Port-Royal [now Annapolis Royal, N.S.] and this seigneury eventually formed a small centre of population... Philippe Mius d’Entremont has left a large number of descendants in Acadia; the barony of Pobomcoup remained in the family until the expulsion of the Acadians; and after more than three centuries some hundred families of the same name can still be counted at Pubnico.” (passage lifted from the English biography section of the profile).

List of Philippe Mius d’Entremont and Madeleine Hélie’s known children:

Marguerite (1650 France – 1714), married Pierre Melanson dit Laverdure in 1655.

Jacques I (of Pobomcoup) (1654 -), married Anne de Saint-Etienne de La Tour, daughter of Charles de La Tour, they settled at Pomcoup (sic).

Abraham (of Pleinmarais) : (1658-1705), married Marguerite de Saint-Etienne de La Tour.

Philippe II (1660 -), married 1) an American-Indian, 2) Marie an American-Indian.

Madeleine: b. 1669. She was 16 at the time of the 1686 census.

 

Note that I've recently been documenting profiles of people from the fictive C.A. Fernald genealogy and that makes me specially wary of alleged descendants of Gaspard de Coligny.

I'm willing to clean the French biography section (spelling, adding details from the English version once it's validated) if you are interested.

 

Thank you Isabelle--it does look like a lot of work to organize all of the information on the profile. This profile is outside my area of knowledge so I appreciate any help particularly with validating the sources and the French translation. Emma McBeth [[McBeth-165]] has also begun working on the profile, so I hope you can work together. Her posts are under "answers" to the question.

Also important. The information on the profile copied from Karen Theriot Reader are her research notes. Anything with a "!" are notes she gathered, not necessarily what she believes to be true. What she has listed in the sources section is what she finally decided to use.[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=katheriot&id=I1442 Philippe Mius]

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I would be happy to have a go at it.  I speak French, am an arborist and a sourcerer so I should be able to make sense of it.  Shall I translate it to English or keep in French?
by Emma MacBeath G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
selected by Jacqueline Girouard
There are several profiles in the Acadian Project that are written in both languages. I think it would be best to stick with that for this profile. I believe the idea is that the two biographies should say the same thing. Thank you  so much. I look forward to see what you come up with.
I started working on this today, but it is going to be like performing surgery.  I am going to have to go slowly and carefully as I work my way through the multiple biographies.  As you said--it is a mess!
I so appreciate your willingness to tackle this. There is no hurry; it has been messed up for a long time. I spent over 4 hours untangling some families yesterday and it will fry your brain and tax your nerves. Thank you so much for whatever you can accomplish.
Just seeing this request today.  Been meaning to work on this for a while.  My french is ok and I have a copy of Histoire de Cap-Sable which has a whole chapter on him, if there's any questions or need to correlate.

Thank you Marcel Muise. Please coordinate with Emma McBeth  and Isabelle Rassinot who have also indicated a willingness to work on the profile. Check out the changes they may have made and let them know what you are adding. 

This is completed Jacqueline.  Isabelle Rassinot cleaned up the French portions making sure they were in proper French, I combined biographies and sources and Marcel is checking sources.
I so appreciate what you, Isabelle and Marcel have done. Thank you so much!

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