Missing record of death needed to complete a profile. [closed]

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I cannot find any records for James Henry Miller, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Miller-68746  after 1891, he was born 1837 and lived in Portsmouth Hampshire England. None of the usual sources have any record for him after 1891.  He married late, and they were childless, so i can envisage no reason for them to leave Portsmouth.

I do not subscribe to Ancestry, so cannot verify if anything on that site is the correct James Miller.

Thanks for any help.

Nick
WikiTree profile: James Miller
closed with the note: Now found some more data, with anomalies, but probably the best we can.
in The Tree House by Nick Miller G2G6 Mach 2 (28.3k points)
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by Kimberly Carroll G2G6 Mach 2 (27.7k points)
Thanks.

Can we be sure that it is my James Henry, as a James Henry was living in Lambeth London during the 1870s?
This is the only record I found that matches the dob
I have just done a check that i should have done before posting the question.  His wife died in Portsmouth in 1913.
Have you checked the GRO?   Have you considered buying the image of the wife's death certificate to see if she was listed as wife or widow?  (It's not very expensive.)

I will do more digging on Sophia.

The record of death is from England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 .   No image available.

Census records for 1901 and 1911 would be usefull, if they exist on Ancestry.  I found nothing on https://www.freereg.org.uk/ for him, Ill have nother dig around.

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The 1891 census has James as being born in 1832. 

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/9889585?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a2234584c646a726e5347312b5675635132585a785963306d727945536351662b41326d7735794d6c396f6c413d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d

I think this is James and Sophia,  in 1911, in the Portsmouth  workhouse (though if it is him, his  former occupation was either a deliberate fiction, or perhaps more likely a clerical error; when you've got over 30 pages to fill in they happen)

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/9889629?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a227952394334577871355a426f6f3669314d42523277726e6971336b64714c6b6c425835595853596c6f5a4d3d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d

I think that this may be his death registration 

MILLER, JAMES HENRY 83 

 GRO Reference: 1915 D Quarter in PORTSMOUTH Volume 02B Page 642 

by Helen Ford G2G6 Pilot (475k points)

And is this them in 1891 1901?  But the birth years are  given as 1826 and 1825. The occupation is semi legible but does seem to say sawdust  vend-- at home. )https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/9890992?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a22684234556b6354766543417339375865577a5737776e65507241386d43526a566955312b737a7a344865493d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d

Edited managed to read occupation a little better

Many thanks for these.  I have ben searching with Myheritage and found the same records.  It is a shame that the records are onl;y on Ancestry and Myheritage.  Wikkitree doies not like sources from behind a pay wall.  But hey, what can one do.

It is annoying that the birth dates are out, but James may have lost track and added a coiuple of years to his age. I see that the entry above, Mr Frank Buchannan was a solicitor, so  the enumerator filling in the census may well have made a mistake.

Thanks for your help.

Nick

P.S. The dockyard will have produced cartloads of sawdust, so there will have been a licrative trade selling it to butchers frishmongers, beer houses, smokehouses and for packing fragile goods for transit.  Sawdust vendor will have bean a steady job if you can win the contract from the dockyard, and is a logical progression from hawker.

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