2023 WikiGames - Magnificent Magnolias Team Chat

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Hello and welcome to Team Magnificent Magnolias! It's time to start thinking about the WikiGames!

We have three events
* Sourcing Slalom starting Friday, August 25 at 8 am EDT/Noon UTC 
* Cross Country Connecting on Saturday, August 26 at 8 am EDT/Noon UTC 
* CC7x7 Wall Climb on Sunday, August 27 at 8 am EDT/Noon UTC.

*Here is the full livecast schedule for the hangouts, every four hours: Space:WikiGames#LiveCast_Schedule

Come visit our Team Page at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Magnificent_Magnolias and let us know what you’ll be working on. Or you can start your own thread below by Answering this post. You can give us updates on your progress, ask for and give help, etc. Remember don't start on our 4 Olympians until the start of the CC7x7 wall climb to maximise the gain. Nothing wrong with identifying potential connections beforehand though.

Please consider joining us on the Magnificent Magnolias Team Discord Channel. It’s a lot of fun to have live conversations going on during these types of events. If you’re not already on the Discord server there are instructions on the help page.

I am looking forward to hanging out with you!

Azure ~ Team Cheerleader

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Team Roster!

Answer 1

Olympian #1: Henry Carr (1941-2015)

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For CC7x7:

• I found his obituary from 2015 that identifies siblings from the 1950 census who are still living. "Newspapers.com," database with images, ({{Newspapers.com|130387704}} : accessed 21 August 2023); citing The Atlanta Constitution (Atlanta, Georgia) Sat, Jun 6, 2015, page B4.
  • Siblings on the 1940 census and not listed as surviving in the obit - John Wesley (1926-1999)
    • "United States Census, 1940", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V1P5-PKS : Thu Jul 27 23:12:12 UTC 2023), Entry for Fuller Carr and Nara Carr, 1940.
    • "United States, Social Security Numerical Identification Files (NUMIDENT), 1936-2007," database, ({{FamilySearch Record|6K79-C24Z}} : accessed 21 August 2023), John Wesley Carr death 31 Dec 1999 (born 3 Jan 1926); citing Digital film/folder number: DI0001099.
  • Siblings on the 1950 census and not listed as surviving in the obit - Charlie (1926-2005), King Henry, Lula Bell
    • * "United States, Social Security Numerical Identification Files (NUMIDENT), 1936-2007," database, ({{FamilySearch Record|6K73-H4V9}} : accessed 21 August 2023), Charlie Carr death 16 Jan 2006 (born 24 Mar 1925); citing Digital film/folder number: DI0001099.
  • Siblings not on the 1950 census by these names and still living - Emmett Sr and Ethan (?possibly Charlie & King Henry?)
  • Siblings as found on the 1950 census and still living in 2015 - Linwood, Jasper, Flozell (1931-2017), Charity, Escalita 
    • * "Newspapers.com," database with images, ({{Newspapers.com|130389484}} : accessed 21 August 2023); citing The Montgomery Advertiser (Montgomery, Alabama) Wed, Sep 27, 2017, page A8, obituary, Flozell Coachmen.
      • Flozell's husband - "Newspapers.com," database with images, ({{Newspapers.com|130389555}} : accessed 21 August 2023); citing The Montgomery Advertiser (Montgomery, Alabama) Wed, May 31, 2000, page 22, obituary, Jesse Coachman.

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Here it is!
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-atlanta-constitution/130387704/

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Can anyone find evidence of the death of Henry's brother Emmett? I had no luck at Ancestry, FamilySearch, and Newspapers.com.

• https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/85901715/person/112351511361/facts shows he died in Feb 2020
• https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/50901988/person/202212786297/facts shows he died on 15 Jan 2020

Other records for Emmett:

• "Alabama County Marriages, 1809-1950," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKMB-6LK4 : 19 February 2021), Emmett Carr and Annie Ruth Thomas, 03 Mar 1950; citing Montgomery, Alabama, United States, County Probate Courts, Alabama; FHL microfilm 1,888,245. [Identifies parents of both]
• "United States 1950 Census", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6F7G-R3XB : Sat Jul 29 08:31:00 UTC 2023), Entry for Emmett Carr and Annie R Carr, April 8, 1950.
• Father-in-law's obituary - "Newspapers.com," database with images, ({{Newspapers.com|130392151}} : accessed 21 August 2023); citing The Montgomery Advertiser (Montgomery, Alabama) Sat, Aug 3, 1963, page 12, column 5, Deacon Joe Thomas, obituary.

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Funeral program for brother Emmett with detailed obituary:
https://jameshcolefh.frontrunnerpro.com/include/site_storage/86628/DeathRecordStub/4076350/4076350.pdf?v=5fc3ff4829d07
Predeceased by wife Annie Ruth (LNAB Thomas) Carr and by daughter Linda.
Predeceased by siblings (brothers, then sisters):

1. John Wesley
2. Charlie
3. King
4. Linwood
5. Henry
6. Flozell
7. Lula

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Henry on FamilySearch Family Tree

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Created a research page for Henry here:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Henry_Carr_Research

Everyone has been added to the trusted list

Answer 2

Olympian #2: Gordon Glover Dunn (1912-1964)

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Research page:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Gordon_Glover_Dunn_Research

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Started working on his paternal grandparents and their children. If anyone would like to pitch in to add their spouses and children feel free! One of the sons married four times!

now working on his maternal line

Answer 3

Olympian #3: Arthur Thomas Muggridge (1904-1933)

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Son of Thomas George Muggridge and Louisa Marian Cooper who were married in 1899 in Brighton, Sussex, England https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:269B-MQ5

Residence 1911 in https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X71M-R86

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Thomas George Muggridge (father of Arthur Thomas Muggridge) born 1870 in Battle, Sussex, England, son of George and Sarah Ann, 1881 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27W-TG59 

George Muggridge born 1845 Battle, Sussex, England, son of Robert and Caroline, 1861 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7T6-YVJ is the brother of Richard Muggridge age 6 in the 1861 census, WikiTree profile https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Muggridge-18

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Research page:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Arthur_Thomas_Muggridge_Research

Answer 4

Olympian #4: Stanley Arthur Lay (1906-2003)

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I found Stanley's paternal grandmother already on WikiTree! https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Woodward-9533

Jane Woodward married Thomas Lay in 1874 in Oxfordshire, England https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DGG-GM9

Their son Arthur Harry Lay born 1878 in Oxfordshire is Stanley's father. He emigrated to New Zealand and married there. I will start to bookmark sources to add when this challenge opens!

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I found Stanley's maternal 6x gr-grandfather on WT: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cowlam-3                                  I'll do the direct line back to him, so there will be LOTS to work with in between! 

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Awesome, thanks, Karyn and Fran!

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Research page:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Stanley_Arthur_Lay_Research

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Found his wife and her family on FS. Have added the details to the Wikispace and will add them for the cc7

Answer 5

Hi everyone!  I am in South Australia so will have to check the time zone calculator for my start times. I will be working on sourcing and connecting profiles from the Australia needs sources and connections categories. I don't know how much help I can be with the athletes, I think my best bet would be Stanley Arthur Lay from New Zealand ~ Karyn :)

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Hi, Karyn!

Sounds like a plan! I and some others have said they would like to do all four athletes for the challenge not just one or two, so that would be great if you could help with Stanley!

az :)

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Hi Azure! I am afraid I do not have alot of experience with researching United States, so I don't know that I can add anything helpful for the first 2 athletes, but I can add to the second 2 with England and New Zealand sources. The research pages look great! Thank you!