DNA Dilemma on parentage of Miranda Richmond to Jonathan O Richmond

Question

I have hit a brick wall on solidifying the parentage of Miranda Richmond. Richmond-4289

Birth 1794 • Litchfield, Connecticut

Death 1860 • Portage, WI, USA

 If you can lend any insight on parents, documented facts on her or siblings or dna.  I have created a Free Space link that explains in further detail... https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:DNA_/_Parentage_dilemma

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Hi Patricia,

I took a quick look at it, and I guess I'm even more stumped than you. I'm unsure what connects Paulina to an Enos Dimond - the record given on her page says that her father was Dimond - it doesn't provide a first name. And I'm not sure what connects the Miranda in the 1860 census to the Miranda in the 1850 census either. Are there other children of Miranda that aren't on Wikitree?

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Here is a link to the obituary of James Edward Lytle, son-in-law of Enos Dimond and Miranda Richmond.  It spells it all out quite plainly.

Obituary  https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Lytle-1981

The original can be found on 

U.S., Newspapers.com Obituary Index

if you have a subscription.  

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Do you know that many of the Richmond family married into the Mayflower pilgrims, specifically, Thomas Rogers?  You may want to explore that.   There is a Jonathan Richmond (5th gen from Thomas Rogers) born in 1749 in Taunton MA to Seth and Lydia Haskins Richmond.  Thomas Rogers granddaughter married John Richmond and that is where a good many of the Richmond line comes from.

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Ding, Ding Ding!  You win the prize.  I thought I connected to this Mayflower Immigrant and your push gave me the connection!

John Rogers 1606-1691
9th great-grandfather

Abigail Rogers 1641-1727
Daughter of John Rogers

Samuel Richmond 1668-1736
Son of Abigail Rogers

Silas Richmond 1702-1784
Son of Samuel Richmond

Ephraim Richmond 1734-1800
Son of Silas Richmond

Jonathan Oliver Richmond 1756-1807
Son of Ephraim Richmond

Miranda Richmond 1794-1860
Daughter of Jonathan Oliver Richmond

Paulina Dimond 1827-1897
Daughter of Miranda Richmond

Anna Don Shaw 1867-1940
Daughter of Paulina Dimond

Clara Don Ames 1894-1935
Daughter of Anna Don Shaw

Jean Harriet Beausoleil 1931-2006
Daughter of Clara Don Ames

Patricia Ann Cunningham
You are the daughter of Jean Harriet Beausoleil

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Hi cousin!  I am so glad I was able to help.  I am related to Thomas Rogers through Abigail.  I am a Society of Mayflower member in NC and Thomas Rogers Society member.  Check out the Thomas Rogers Society where you can see the genealogy of the members and you can send them pictures of your deceased ancestors in the line.  Such a nice feature.

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I am also a descendant to John Billington, so I already belong to the Mayflower Society and the Billington Society.  I will check out the Thomas Rogers Society.  That sounds very cool.

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I am also a descendant of Francis Cooke.  Glad you are a Mayflower Society member. Have fun!

Answer 1

Hello Patricia,

You can learn more about your Richmond ancestry if you register at gedmatch.com and follow their directions to upload your AncestryDNA results there.  Some of your DNA matches may have information about Miranda’s ancestry that you don’t yet have.

Then add your GEDmatch ID to your DNA Tests page in WikiTree at HTTPs://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Special:DNATests . 

After a couple of days you will be to see your relatives in WikiTree who tested with AncestryDNA, 23andMe, Living DNA, MyHeritageDNA, and Family Tree DNA’s Family Finder. See: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1NgD9b3s0Gs

You can also see your matching DNA relatives in GEDmatch via Wikitree:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b6yeCirkINc Encourage those matching relatives to join WikiTree and add their ancestry and GEDmatch ID to WikiTree.

Encourage your matching DNA relatives at AncestryDNA to also upload their DNA to GEDmatch.com and add their ancestry and GEDmatch ID to WikiTree. 

You are also a X chromosome descendant of Miranda.  By joining GEDmatch you will also be able to see who else is an X chromosome match with you. You will be able to find your X chromosome matches in WikiTree:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wcoJppPcI6k

Find X chromosome tested descendants in WikiTree and compare their X chromosomes:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qva7RYzYTVQ

Find your X chromosome matches in GEDmatch via WikiTree:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wcoJppPcI6k

It is all free.  Sincerely,

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Thank you for your reply. I do have my information at gedmatch, so I added the kit number to wikiTree and I will wait a few days to see what pops.

my further query would be how do I make reference to this as source material on the wikiTree?

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Hello Patricia,

For how to reference a DNA match as supporting source material for a relationship see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:DNA_Confirmation#How_to_Add_Source_Citations

I most encourage

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:DNA_Confirmation#GEDmatch

because it allows others to independently verify one's findings.  A lot of testee's believe they have a sufficient match when they don't.

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Because you already were in GEDmatch and you have now added your GEDmatch ID to your DNA Tests page, you can now find your autosomal and X chromosome matches in WikiTree and GEDmatch. 

Find your matching autosomal DNA relatives in WikiTree: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1NgD9b3s0Gs

Find matching autosomal DNA relatives in GEDmatch via Wikitree:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b6yeCirkINc 

Find your matching X chromosome relatives in WikiTree

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wcoJppPcI6k

Find your matching X chromosome relatives in GEDmatch via WikiTree:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wcoJppPcI6k