Born
6 Nov 1789
Dykehead, Kirk Andrews, Cumberland, England [1]
Baptized
22 Nov 1789
Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
entry reads: Walter Turnbull and Eliz. Dixon Dykehead, Kirk Andrews had a Dr born Nov 6th, bapd 22d [2]
Died
between 1841 and 1851
?Rockcliffe Cumberland, or ?Annan, Dumfriesshire
Eleanor was not with husband Robert in 1851 census, and he remarries in 1853.
Her death is not obvious in the English Death index.
NB many trees show Eleanor as dying 1848 in Durham. The only (female) Kirkup deaths registered in Durham in 1848 were an Elizabeth and an Eleanor. The latter was only aged 19. [3]
Research Notes
From a growing collection of DNA matches between descendants of Helen's brother Robert, and descendants of Margaret Kirkup, the daughter of Robert Kirkup and Eleanor Turnbull, where Eleanor is shown by census data to be born between 1792 and 1796, Helen Is assumed to be this latter Eleanor despite the small age discrepancy (1789 from baptism vs 1792, the earliest implied by the 1841 census).
I would be more comfortable with the id if more DNA matches popped up with lines down from other than Margaret, given her husband, William Wills, also has ancestry from around Arthuret, but we are lucky to get any DNA matches at this far removed.
Any other DNA tested descendants out there? Please upload your test company's DNA file to GEDmatch, and fish in more ponds for matches by also checking out the other free transfers check with instructionsHenderson-2297 06:31, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Sources
↑ Birth 6 Nov (Dykehead) Bap. 22 Nov 1789 (Canonbie) Helen dtr of Walter TURNBULL & Eliz. DIXON, Canonbie Parish Register, 814/ 20 148, image available ScotlandsPeople
↑ Birth 6 Nov (Dykehead) Bap. 22 Nov 1789 (Canonbie) Helen dtr of Walter TURNBULL & Eliz. DIXON, Canonbie Parish Register, 814/ 20 148, image available ScotlandsPeople
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database @ FamilySearch.com (10 Dec. 2014), Robert Kirkup and Eleanor Turnbull, 7 June 1811; citing: Nichol-Forest, Cumberland, England, reference ; FHL microfilm 1472437 IT 12-18.
"England and Wales Census, 1841," database with images @ FamilySearch.com (30 Oct. 2015), Eleanor Kirkup age 45 in household Robert Kirkup, Rockliff & Rockliff Cross, Cumberland, England; from "1841 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images @ Findmypast.com citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey. See also: Original @ Ancestry.com
WikiTree profile Turnbull-343 created through the import of HENDERSONLornaAncestorsPlus1Desc4WikiTree.ged on Oct 18, 2011 by L Henderson.
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Eleanor by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA.
However, there are no known mtDNA test-takers in her direct maternal line.
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Eleanor:
Turnbull-1523 and Turnbull-343 appear to represent the same person because: yet more DNA matches, still from descendants of Margaret however, have convinced me these are one and the same person.
Would love to hear from any DNA tested descendants of Eleanor *.
Trying to prove that Eleanor who married Robert KIRKUP is Helen, Turnbull-343, dtr of Walter TURNBULL and Elizabeth DICKSON, and thus sister of my 3* great grandfather Robert TURNBULL who married Eleanor SCOTT
or of course from anyone with documentary proof of this connection
See my research notes on Helen's profil
Trying to prove that Eleanor who married Robert KIRKUP is Helen, Turnbull-343, dtr of Walter TURNBULL and Elizabeth DICKSON, and thus sister of my 3* great grandfather Robert TURNBULL who married Eleanor SCOTT
Lorna