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This profile represents Margaret/Mary, who many believe was one of the Ice siblings captured by Native Americans and later released. However, she does not appear among the Ice names on the list of released hostages.
The narrative of Barbara Leininger, and Marie LeRoy, published in German, in 1759, is a firsthand account of their capture and escape from the Indians, and it is notable for listing other whites who Barbara met during her captivity, including Eve, William, Catharine Ice (spelled Isaacs in the narrative). This narrative ALSO mentions a German woman named Mary (no last name), who Leininger met near Moschkingo, who was the "wife of a Miller, from the South Branch." Although Mary initially wanted to join Barbara in her attempt to escape her captivity, she became lame and was unable to make the journey. Mary did, however, provide provisions to Leininger and LeRoy (and an English man named Owen Gibson)--to assist them during their escape. Possibly, "Mary" is Mary Ice--the presumed sister of William Ice, captured at the South Branch with her siblings, who remained with the Indians.
Some descendants believe she remained among her captors and married a Native American. Ice family stories recount that Mary, aged 88, visited her white family once, and a big feast was given in her honor. She returned to her Indian family soon thereafter.
The following is unsupported by any documentation or contemporaneous source: "Although "Mary" Ice, a daughter of Frederick Ice and his 1st wife, was captured by the warrior, Killbuck, when Ice's first settlement in Western Virginia was destroyed and after she matured, was married to Pucksinekau and had thirteen children by him, including Cheesekau, Tecumapease, Tecumseh, and the triplets, Tenskwatawak, Elkswatawah, and Kumshaka, no Ice is descended of Tecumseh, his sister, nor of any of the brothers, much as we have wanted to be. According to Oliver Perry Ice, great-grandson of Frederick, when he was only four years old, "Mary" came to visit his family and he remembered the big feast given in her honor. He remembered her as being very old and at that time, she would have been about 88 years old (Oliver Perry was born in 1821). She would not stay with them, although hey wanted her to, and she returned to her Indian family.
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The Leininger eyewitness account of "Mary"--wife of a Miller from the South Branch who was captured by Natives and who remained with her captors as an adult-- certainly lends credence to her existence, even if there is no proof she was "Ice" or "Isaac".
edited by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
I am not advocating for unsubstantiated claims, but an eyewitness account of a person and event from 1759 that is at least consistent with the stories should not be dismissed as quickly as so many of the family stories that came later. Sure, it's weak and circumstantial evidence, but it is an actual clue that could, in theory, be tested should better historical sources surface in the future.
edited by Michael Schell
Generally, in questions of tribal lines, I'd rather believe the Tribal sources. I'm also apparently related to Mary Marguerite Ice, though. I suppose the descent would hold, if Tecumpease's mother either was Shawnee,with a white father, or, white with a Shawnee father.
Regardless, I agree with Kathie that we don't need 2 profiles to represent her--and the surname to preserve should be Ice, not Iaac for this generation.
edited by Michael Schell
It appears I added Mary to my profile list without noticing you had her on your list by a different last name. I am confident that these two profiles are the same person. Would you mind merging them? Thanks, Debi