Joan (Dacre) Clifford (abt. 1415 - bef. 1453)

Born about 1415 in England

Ancestors

Wife of Thomas Clifford — married after 1 Aug 1424 in England [uncertain]

Descendants

Died before May 1453 before about age 38 in England

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Biography

Birth and Parentage

Joan (aka Jane) Dacre was the daughter of Sir Thomas Dacre, 6th Lord Dacre of Gilsland, and his wife Philippe, daughter of Sir Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland, by his 1st wife, Margaret de Stafford.^[1][2][3] Her birth date is uncertain, as is her birth pace: her father held lands in various counties of the North of England.^[2]

Marriage and Issue

On 1 August 1424 the mother and grandmother of Thomas Clifford, 8th Lord Clifford, Sheriff of Westmoreland, son of Sir John de Clifford, 7th Lord Clifford and Elizabeth Percy, daughter of Sir Henry 'Harry Hotspur' Percy and Elizabeth Mortimer made an agreement for Thomas to marry Joan.^[4][5] They had paid the King £200 for the right to determine Thomas's marriage.^[6] The agreement reflected a Clifford-Percy alliance.^[4] The date of the marriage is not known.

Thomas and Joan had four sons and five daughters, with all sons being knighted:^[1][3]

• Sir John,^[1][3] b. 8 Apr 1435, m. Margaret Bromflete^[7]
• Sir Roger,^[1][3] m. Joan (or Jane) Courtenay^[8]
• Sir Thomas^[1][3]
• Sir Robert^[1][3]
• Maud, m. 1st Sir John Harington, m. 2nd Sir Edmund Sutton^[1][3]
• Anne, m. 1st Sir Richard Tempest, m. 2nd William Conyers, Esq.^[1][3]
• Elizabeth,^[1][3] who was married Robert Plumpton in 1446, when she was about six^[9] (so she was born about 1440), and after his death in 1450 m. Robert's brother Sir William Plumpton^[1][3][9] (this was permissible under canon law as the first marriage had not been consummated), and then m. 3rd John Hamerton^[1][3]
• Joan, m. Sir Simon Musgrave^[1][3]
• Margaret, m. Robert Carre^[1][3]

Mention in a Will

Joan was the beneficiary of a collar of gold in a codicil of the will,^[10] dated 15 Aug 1446, of Maud Clifford, widow of Richard of York , Knt., Earl of Cambridge.^[3][11]

Death

Joan died before May 1453, when her husband Thomas contracted to marry Isabel Dacre, widow of John Dacre, Knt., a lady in waiting to Queen Margaret of Anjou, the wife of King Henry VI, but this marriage never took place. Isabel married, in 1454, Sir John Boteler (Butler) of Bewsey instead.^[1][3]

The burial place of Joan is unknown. Her husband, Sir Thomas Clifford, was buried by the abbot in The Virgin's Chapel (Lady Chapel) within St. Albans Abbey (now Cathedral and Abbey Church of St. Albans) St. Albans, Hertfordshire.^[1][3]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14} Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume II, pp. 246-247 CLIFFORD 15. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, pp. 372-374 DACRE 14. PHILIPPE NEVILLE. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
3. ↑ ^{3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14 3.15} Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Vol. II, p. 508, CLIFFORD 11, Google Books
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1} Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, entry for 'Clifford, Thomas, eighth Baron Clifford', print and online 2004, available online via some libraries
5. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. II, pp. 507-508, CLIFFORD 10, Google Books
6. ↑ George E Cokayne. The complete peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom : extant, extinct, or dormant, Vol III, London : The St. Catherine Press, 1910, p. 293, Internet Archive
7. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 508, CLIFFORD 12, Google Books
8. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, volume II, p. 318, KNYVET-11, Google Books
9. ↑ ^{9.0 9.1} Plumpton, Edward, Sir. Plumpton correspondence. A series of letters, chiefly domestick, written in the reigns of Edward IV. Richard III. Henry VII. and Henry VIII, Camden Society, London, 1839. Pg lxiv.
10. ↑ J W Clay. The Clifford Family, 'The Yorkshire Archaeological Journal', Vol XVIII, 1905, p. 365, Internet Archive
11. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, volume II, pp. 246-248 CLIFFORD 15-16

See also:

• Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011):
  • volume II, page 16 DACRE 9. PHILIPPA NEVILLE
  • volume I, page 508 CLIFFORD 9. THOMAS CLIFFORD
• Wikipedia:
  • Thomas Clifford (her husband)
  • Thomas Dacre (her father)
• Frederick Lewis Weis. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 8th ed., Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, Line 5-35 p. 9

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

This profile was reviewed for the Magna Carta Project by Michael Cayley in February 2020, and revised to meet current Project guidelines. Cayley-55 13:12, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Joan (Dacre) Clifford appears in a trail from the Levis/Need Gateway Ancestors (Samuel Levis, Hannah (Levis) Blunston, Sarah (Levis) Bradshaw, Mary Need and Joseph Need) to Magna Carta Surety Baron John Fitz Robert. This trail was developed as part of the Samuel Levis trail to the Bigods by John Sigh and was badged in February 2020 by Michael Cayley. The trails can be seen in the Magna Carta Trails sections in the profiles of Samuel Levis and Mary Need.

Joan (Dacre) Clifford is in a trail badged by the Magna Carta Project in September 2015 from Gateway Ancestor Robert Peyton to Magna Carta Surety Barons Hugh le Bigod, Roger le Bigod and John FitzRobert. These trails are set out in the Magna Carta Trails section of the Gateway's profile.

See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".

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