I need help regarding Civil War records for James Adam Shirley.

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I have found records for a James A. Shirley - Co. F, 14 (McCarver's) Arkansas Infantry (Confederate) with rank of private.  At the bottom of the record it says "See also 21 Ark Inf".  If I am correct he enlisted on the 23rd of September, 1861 at Pocahontas, Arkansas.  Is this the same James A. Shirley that was on the company muster roll for the Co. B, 21 Reg't Arkansas Inf. and was captured at Big Black on the 17th of May, 1863?  I am just beginning to work on profiles for a family of Shirleys that I believe had 3 brothers serving.  I really want to get accurate information but I'm knew to Civil War research.  I downloaded all the records I could find for James A. Shirley in Arkansas on 3Fold.  (I managed to really confuse myself by mixing in records for a James A. Shirley in South Carolina!)
WikiTree profile: James Shirley
in Genealogy Help by Rebecca Wooster G2G6 Mach 1 (11.8k points)

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I added a Civil War box to his profile and added Civil War records. Added a Roll of Honor as a Prisoner of War.

Also, did a little cleanup to make the profile appear more organized (just moved your parts around some). Lastly, I changed the birth date to 1848 to match the Find a Grave record. That eliminated the error message on the profile. If the date at FAG is incorrect, please change it back. I would suggest a note in the Research Notes section explaining the variance from the FAG birth date.

He did a common route for Confederate POWs. Sent to Memphis, the to POW Camp Morton (Indiana), the to POW Fort Delaware (Delaware) and lastly to Point Lookout (Maryland) for exchange. He was fortunate. The next year, the Union stopped the POW exchanges. He would have remained in one of the POW camps until the war was over or he died of disease.
by Norman Jones G2G6 Pilot (113k points)
selected by Rebecca Wooster
Thank you for all of your help, Norman.  This is a family profile that I adopted and I had not yet added any kind of a serious profile.  I appreciate the military service information as well.  I am creating a source page for Jame Adam Shirley's service record images and all of the information you provided will be added to it.

How did you know about the Union stopping POW exchanges?  Have you done a lot of Civil War research?
I knew about the stoppage of POW exchanges from my long-time study of Andersonville. Yes, I have some considerable Civil War research. I am one of the co-administrators of the POWs Who Died at Andersonville Space Page and I helped write the Andersonville Raiders Space Page and the Andersonville Regulators Space Page.

As a member of the WikiTree Civil War Project, I have worked on a fair number of Civil War soldier profiles. If you have an interest in the Civil War and would like to work on some Civil War soldier profiles, I invite you to join the WikiTree Civil War Project (if you are not already a member).

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I am interested in the the Civil War Project, but I'm not ready to join another project right now.  I am working on paternal relatives alive during the time frame of the Civil War.  Currently I'm researching 4.  On my mother's side I know we have one relation that was at Andersonville, but I'm not ready to go back to that side of the family again.

I'm sure you noticed that James A Shirley was captured at Champion Hill on May 16, 1863 and Big Black on May 17, 1863.   I did a little research and the two locations seem to be part of a larger battle.  I don't think James was captured, escaped and was captured again the next day.  When writing his profile how do you suggest I explain the notes on the POW records?

Yes, I noticed the discrepancy. It is not uncommon to see more than one date listed for a capture or even for a transfer. At this point in time, I cannot be sure which was correct, so I listed both as they appeared in his service records.

As for joining the Civil War Project, that is a personal choice. We do not place demands on the members of our project. We offer monthly challenges for those who have the time and want a variation from their normal to do list. But even with the challenges, the amount of time you put into that is personal. Some members put a lot of time in on a challenge. Others may work on only 1 profile. Many members do not participate each month. We have members who are busy working on their individual projects. Just wanted to let you know we are quite flexible.

As you work through your family who served during the Civil War, whether you join the Civil War Project or do not join, please feel free to ask for any assistance you need. We have a lot of very knowledgeable people and are willing to help.

By the way, you piqued my curiosity with the relative who was at Andersonville. When anyone mentions Andersonville around here they get my attention. If  you need anything with the soldier who was imprisoned at Andersonville, please feel free to ask. If I can't find the answer, I have acquaintances who will.
The ancestor who was a POW at Andersonville is [[Gray-3780|Thomas Cox Gray (1844-1918)]].  I just looked at the profile and saw that there is very little of his military service listed.  I didn't know how to search and I haven't gone back to that side of the family in a while.  A relative did quite a lot of research and found that Thomas was captured on the 22nd of July, 1864 at the Battle of Atlanta.  However, she didn't share any sources.
Rebecca,

I added the Andersonville Prison category and POW Honor Roll to his profile. Also, added information from the Andersonville records.  Added a little more information from his service record at Indiana Archives.

Since the profile bio was written in a narrative, I wrote out the information from the records (instead of copying and pasting as I frequently do). I think all the information is now covered.
Thanks Norman.  I would have never known where to search for that information.  The relative that shared what information I did have described Thomas as being 5' 10" tall, blue eyes, light hair and complexion.  Do any of the military records provide a description?
I've been exploring the Civil War project page and stumbled upon a sticker for POWs who were at Andersonville.  I replaced the Roll of Honor sticker on Thomas Cox Gray's profile because I think it's more descriptive.  I hope it was applicable.
That sticker is find.  The wording may appear different when displayed and may have a different image, but it does exactly the same thing, that is, it applies the Prisoner of War category to the profile.

For future reference, most stickers may be edited (there are a few critical lines). For example, that Roll of Honor - POW sticker, you could have edited it to added At Andersonville.

You will find various stickers that are interchangeable.  That is the category stickers.  The Civil War Box itself is a little more rigid and not interchangeable. However you can add a second flag (for the Regiment battle flag) or add company nicknames.

At first all the variations of stickers seems confusing and overwhelming. But after a while you realize they are just variations on a theme.

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This Proof of Service from Sharp County from 1901 seems to list both.  

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-TC9C-8R?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AWW2L-DV3Z&action=view

Sharp County leads here on Familysearch.org.  Does this look right? https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/GQLQ-GPT

by Cathryn Hondros G2G6 Mach 5 (54.2k points)
Thank you VERY much, Cathryn.  I also found the pension application for James' brother William Henry James in the same records.  Now my question is - how did you find the records?  How do I search for them?
Here’s what I would suggest.  Get a free account on familysearch.org.  

When I’m working on soldiers, I like to just put in their name and then filter by record collection for collections that apply to the civil war.  I don’t like to use place of birth, and a year range when searching military records because it often filters out some war records that you might like to see.  

The Civil War soldiers index is helpful because it helps narrow down regiment or regiments that a soldier served in and sometimes it offers an alternate spelling on a name or, in extreme cases, an alternate name

For union soldiers, filtering down to and finding the 1890 military census collection helps establish where a soldier was living in 1890. If they’ve passed on and their wife is listed instead and that can be helpful, too.

Then I like to filter to the pension records. They can give clues to geography, spouses, sometimes parents or children, place of death and date of death.  

Finally, if you know the state or states, the soldier has lived in, filtering to state related Civil War, or veterans records sometimes yields interesting results.

All of these military details help make sure that when you’re looking at the regular US census records, you have the right individual.
I confess I've never search through the catalog.  Wow!  I've been missing out.  Thank you.  I'm going to dive in!

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