Display of notable notable spouses

Question

Hi there,

recently I learned at the example of Chris Pratt, that marriages/spouses of living notables are not displayed, even if the spouse is also a notable/has a yellow profile.

Is this correct? Should we maybe add a sentence about it to Help:Privacy or some other page?

Would it maybe be also noteworthy that in cases like this it's a good idea to mention and link the spouse in the bio?

Comments

here is an example of the spouses not showing but in bio.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lopez-5633

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Follow-Up: Tool support for finding unmentioned notable spouses

Answer 1

another example https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bublé-4

and same as Chris Platt the spouse link is down in the comment box

Answer 2

Unfortunately, it is correct. In my view,  notable spouses of notables should show as attached profiles.

Answer 3

I agree that is what happens, but the privacy pages are a bit awkwardly worded. For "Private with Public Family Tree" (one slightly more restrictive than what Notables are set to), it says: "that relatives are visible if the relative also has a public family tree". Then what Notables is set to is "Private with Public Biography and Family Tree", which would also include the same. Based on this, I would expect all relatives to be visible with either of these privacy settings, but they are not.

The other key item is "Public Family Tree". If this actually means "green lock", which is one less secure than Private with Public Biography and Family Tree, then it would make some sense, as it would mean that no living person's relatives (spouses, children) unless they had passed away.

So we may need more clarification of this as the behavior is certain as if actual "Public" or "Open" would be required to be able to see these relationships. Of course, the other item we have to be careful about is that even if they are a Notable, they have to meet the qualifications to lift their privacy from Unlisted. If the one spouse is yellow privacy and the other is unlisted, then of course, we probably should not be discussing the unlisted person nor listing them in the bio other than as maybe a "unlisted Notable spouse".

Comments

I'm not sure if this is a policy issue or a technology issue. Either way, it would seem that the same criteria would be in place for all immediate relatives - spouses, children, parents.

Answer 4

There is a way to see notable spouses of notables who are connected.

As an example, you can look at Chris' connections, you can see his wife Anna - Chris' connections.

As it is shown in the connection, even more reason to show as connected on the profiles.

Russell

Answer 5

Thought it would be worth linking to the Marriage Privacy policy here, since that is why these quirks in displaying spouses of living notables exist. It seems like a weird policy to me, but thought it would be helpful to this discussion, especially since the question is coming up right now with Rosalynn Carter's passing.