Can someone take a photo for me in London? [closed]

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Hello all,

I have a request that may be a little unusual. As part of a WikiTree challenge, I am working on Eduard Thönen (1827-1854), one of the miners who were killed at the Eureka Stockade in Australia. We have made good progress on his biography, and have identified a certain house in London where he stayed in 1851.

Would anyone be able to take a photo of that house, and upload it to WikiTree?

The address is 22 City Road, London EC1Y 2AJ, UK. It is this house on Google Street View.

Thanks a lot!

WikiTree profile: Edward Thönen
closed with the note: As commenters have pointed out, the buildings are all recent, and the street was renumbered since. Those are useful infos for a research note (and I'll add that), but a photo of the building may not be as useful as thought. Thanks everyone who answered/commented!
in Genealogy Help by Daniel Bamberger G2G6 Mach 2 (26.4k points)
closed by Daniel Bamberger
Daniel, I'm being a wet blanket sorry, but the building, or at least its facade, looks a lot more recent than 1851. Is a photo going to be relevant to Eduard's life?
This is the real estate listing for the commercial building at 22 City Road. It does not look like there is any of the original house left. The estate agent may let you use their photographs for your project if you ask.

https://search.dronwright.co.uk/properties/54360-22-city-road-london

I agree that this is recent redevelopment but even if the original shell dated from the 1850s it wasn't  22 City Road  in 1851. The road was  renumbered in 1859 and partially renumbered in 1910. See Streets with a story pdf linked from this pagehttp://www.islingtonhistory.org.uk/sources.html

edit. The area has changed a lot in the last 80 yesrs. It was targeted during WW2. The borough of Finsbury (the City Road is on its border) had 9899 houses and flats; 9015 were damaged, almost 1000 destroyed. Restoration and redevelopment has been very piecemeal taking many decades (I played in cleared 'bombsites' a couple of miles away in the 1960s).You now  find a mix of 1950-70 infilling,  very recent redevelopment  and surviving  older buildings. This picture shows the Wesley Chapel in the City Road. It was undamaged but the photo shows neigbouring bombed out property https://www.wesleysheritage.org.uk/object/bomb-damage-1/

I decided to close the question.

As commenters have pointed out, the buildings are all recent, and the street was renumbered since. Those are useful infos for a research note (and I'll add that), but a photo of the building may not be as useful as thought. Thanks everyone who answered/commented!
I like the question Daniel. Thankyou for asking it.
The original building might not remain but the address, somewhere on City Road, 2 to 3 km from the Tower of London, does give a good sense of the general location.

Eduard Thönen managed to pack a lot of interesting life inside 27 years.   .

2 Answers

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I'm curious. Why don't you use the Google street view Image?
by Robynne Lozier G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
I may be under a wrong impression, but I thought that we can't upload screenshots from Google Street View to WikiTree, for copyright reasons.

From their website    You may not use Google Earth imagery on the web for any commercial or promotional purposes

I thought so, although I find https://about.google/brand-resource-center/products-and-services/geo-guidelines/ a little hard to understand. What exactly would constitute fair use here isn't yet clear to me.

EDIT: Okay, "Don't do this: Downloading Street View images to use separately from Google services (such as an offline copy)" is pretty clear.

I was not able to understand most of what I was reading either, until reaching pretty much the end and the section beginning with the statement I pasted here, which left no doubt about what is not permitted.  Hopefully someone will come through with a photo for you
"You may not screenshot Street View imagery or remove it from embedded sources for any purpose. This ensures that if Google edits or removes imagery in response to user requests, these changes will be reflected in your project too."

Thank you, Patricia yes

+5 votes

I haven't checked if there's a pic of this building, but it might be worth looking at Geograph - it has thousands of images which have Creative Commons licences.

by Katie Fuller G2G6 Mach 4 (42.0k points)
Have you had a chance to look at Jillian Rodgers' excellent comment above?  Even the listing says it is refurbished...
I did, but Geograph might be of interest for other places or people.
I decided to close the question.

As commenters have pointed out, the buildings are all recent, and the street was renumbered since. Those are useful infos for a research note (and I'll add that), but a photo of the building may not be as useful as thought. Thanks everyone who answered/commented!

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