Why am I not connected to Minnesota Governor Adolph Eberhart?

Question

I am trying to connect Minnesota governor's to our WikiTree.  It is my understanding that I should be able to see if we connect (if we do, then he is connected to the tree) by using the "Family Tree & Tools" tab, then "Connection to me".  It is not working and I don't know why.  I can make the connection with [[Riddell-413|George Riddell]] but no farther.  His daughter, [[Riddell-1918|Margaret Riddell]] married Herbert [[Eberhart-483|Herbert Eberhart]] who is son of the governor [[Andersson-8501|Aldoph Eberhart]].  These people are all connected to one another.  Am I doing something wrong?

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WHEN did you attach the last of the links?

It can take  up to 24 hours (give or take an hour or so) before the system updates and the Connections show.

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OK, I thought it was automatic!  Thank you...

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Nope.  

I am also awaiting the system to catch up with the profiles I have linked to one that was already Connected.

I expect any time in the next few hours - or the full 24 from when the last profile was attached to the chain.

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How did you know?  I thought I did something wrong so kept looking for my error.  I also did not understand that not everyone was not connected.  When I look at how I am connected, it is always via my aunt.  It didn't make sense at first until I started connecting governors.

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First-- there are no Connection links at the bottom of the profile.  Second -- I joined the Connectors Project after I'd Connected a few profiles and found I liked doing it, so I see  the little jigsaw icon at the top of a profile that is NOT Connected..   Third -- I read most of g2g, so knew from posts where others asked "how long does it take for . . .?" that it can take around 24 hours from when you make that last attachment.   My experience (small as it is), has shown me that sometimes the Connection Finder  will be there in less than 24 hours, depending on what time of the day the last profiles were attached to the chain that links to the already Connected profile/s.

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Do you have any advice for connecting people?  I have been using Ancestry.com to build a tree to find documents I later look for on FamilySearch.org.  I use the names from the tree and search for them in WikiTree.  I spend a lot of hours but it has worked so far.

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I don't know how others do it, but my last couple of Connections I started with my person, then looked for sources (Family Search, and ancestry library edition).  If the person was English, Scottish, Irish, New Zealander, or Australian, I go to the online BDM sites and search.  I also check Papers Past (New Zealand), and Trove (Australia) for possible newspaper articles.  (This last week I have spent a LOT of time on the GRO, hunting down same-name cousins, uncles/aunts-and-nephews/nieces - and brothers/sisters where one died young and the next child was given the same name.)

If I find Fam Search has a profile for my person/family of my person, I check, double-check, triple-check, and quadruple-check that the sources attached -- and the family attached -- actually belong.  Then I start expanding out the family, by generations - - and I check on Wikitree using the search person page : https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Special:SearchPerson

These last couple of times I was fortunate to find a Connected relative where I only needed to create a handful of profiles, instead of dozens to hundreds.  (I do not expect to always be that fortunate - and, indeed, have three lines for which I cannot find an already Connected WT profile.)  Once I find that potential Connection, I go back to checking, and re-checking, and re-re-checking that I have the relationships correct, and that every step along the "chain" I am creating will stand up to scrutiny.  

While that may sound "easy", it is actually very time consuming, because the family units on family search are not always correct, or correctly sourced.  This last week I was detaching grandchildren so I could add in the parental generation, or detaching nephews from uncles and finding their actual parents.   (I figure it's better to do it on fam search than to have someone else bring over the wrong relationships to Wikitree.)

So, basically, we do the same thing, just a little differently in approach because I don't have a paid ancestry account, so use FamilySearch instead .. supplementing that with ancestry-library.  

And I "live" in the BDMs.    (I'm not sure the GRO likes me, because I keep telling them they have missing records - where said record is on FreeBMD.)

(edited to correct typo - b!=n)

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Wow, you really work at finding the connections.  Thank you for all your effort!  I do have a paid Ancestry account and it is so good at finding records with spelling errors.  I spoke with FamilySearch a few years ago and told them it would be nice if I could correct their records when I find errors. Unfortunately, they still only allow a little editing.  I just connected another governor of Minnesota.  These last two actually had some WT profiles I later learned were family.  But the owner did not add much for a source and usually just "family history"...  Now all of them are attached to the tree.  One thing I found frustrating tonight.  Ancestry has records for many of the Norwegian family members I was researching (census, birth and baptisms) and indicated they came from FamilySearch.  But when I searched FS, I was not able to find them.  I even had the film number.

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I have found the same thing with records.  Sometimes I just can NOT find (or cause FamSearch to generate) the same record that I am looking at in another tab.  Other times if I start to change the details on the FS person, the source will pop up.  (I just had that happen with a death record. I changed the details, and 5 minutes later on refreshing the tab, there was a suggested source for the death that matched what I have found on anc-library.)

Many times it is a census that I find on anc-library, but the same thing just won't pop on FS.  So I read, and reread the image to glean as much info as possible. (I find this more often with the English census, than the American ones.)  And sometimes it's because the info on FS has a missing census page, so you have a 3-year-old child listed clearly as "son", or "daughter", but the transcriber for FS has them listed as household "head".  

That sort of thing is also why I rely more on the GRO for birth and death info.  The FS transcriptions don't always have the mother's maiden surname, which can be vitally important in determining to which branch of a family the person belonged.  Tying the birth info and any baptismal info together, as well, helps.  Especially when you have a census return that has a mother that matches the FS "family", but, when you check, the wife is WAY too young to be the mother of the children listed.  That generates a hunt for a death, second marriage, or a  different family of name-alikes.  (Name-alikes are "fun".  Sorting through them, especially over multiple generations, can be very time-consuming, but needful.)

Answer 1

Hello Phillip.

It's just a matter of waiting for the daily database update.

As you say, Gerge (Riddell-413) is connected to the WikiTree. You recently (20 Mar 2021, 03:24 UTC) added his daughter Margaret (Ridell-1918). Up to this time (20 Mar 2021, 15:34 UTC), Margaret (Riddell-1918) shows no connections.

Comments

23:56 UTC. Margaret Jean Ridell is connected !!   

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great!  Thanks for checking.

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You are welcome, Phillip.

Answer 2

Margaret Riddell has no children attached to her profile, could this be the reason?

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I don't know why that would help.  It's her marriage that makes the connection, not her children.