25 million connected!

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25,009,781 people are connected to each other on our global family tree, says the Connection Finder today. It took only 105 days to get there from the 24M milestone passed on October 25 last year. This is the shortest time span ever to connect another million to the Big Tree!

For the record, here are the time needed to achieve the previous millions :

  • 23 M (9 Jul 2021) to 24 M : 108 days
  • 22 M (15 Mar 2021) to 23 M : 116 days
  • 21 M (27 Nov 2020) to 22 M : 108 days
  • 20 M (31 Jul 2020) to 21 M : 119 days
in The Tree House by Bernard Vatant G2G6 Pilot (176k points)

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+16 votes
Congratulations everyone!
by Tommy Buch G2G Astronaut (1.9m points)
+16 votes
Yeehaw!! We've been working hard. Good job everyone.
by Luther Brown G2G6 Pilot (565k points)
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Dear Bernard,

    I am interested in these statistics.  Is there any way to know what portion of these connected profiles were existing, as opposed to new during the 105 days? We know, for example, how many new profiles were created during the Connect-a-Thon.   Can we tell how many previously unconnected profiles are now connected?  

      Just curious. Thanks for the information. -NGP
by Nanette Pezzutti G2G6 Pilot (129k points)
Nope, Shawn. When Paul means "deleted", he means "deleted", not "merged". Re-read carefully his figures. We miss about 12% IDs, the breakdown being 7% merged, and 5% deleted.
Bernard: Oops, I agree, Paul's methodology seems quite good! I am pretty shocked that 5% (1/20) profiles are being deleted! Certainly that could be leading to many disconnected profiles.

FWIW, I redid my computation using connectivity I can compute directly from the data dump network. (My previous computation was done using a boolean value in the dump itself which says whether or not WikiTree considers this profile to be connected to the main tree). With this new method, we do not consider profiles connected if they only connect via a living person's profile (because living people are missing from the data dump). So this version feels like it should be avoid some of the issue of living people deleting their profiles?

 * Connected: Total: 20_356_554 (83.7%)

   - New profiles: 812_055 (4.0%)

   - Previously unconnected: 186_739 (0.9%)

   - Previously connected: 19_357_760 (95.1%)

 * Unconnected: Total: 3_976_179 (16.3%)

   - New profiles: 226_605 (5.7%)

   - Previously connected: 11_786 (0.3%)

   - Previously unconnected: 3_737_788 (94.0%)

So, in this version, the number of disconnected profiles (connected -> unconnected) is down a bit (to 11,786) but it still looks like the majority of disconnected profiles are not caused by users deleting their accounts (If I'm understanding this correctly). Instead, I assume these 11k disconnections were caused by previously incorrect links being removed (but that's just a guess).

"it still looks like the majority of disconnected profiles are not caused by users deleting their accounts".

Hasty conclusion. When an account is closed, all private profiles managed by this account are deleted, but the public ones are not. Suppose Mary deletes her account, her parents and grandparents were private, so they are deleted.

She was connected through her paternal line, which stays connected, but she had created a maternal branch with 50 public profiles, connected only through Mary's parents.

When Mary deletes her account, her maternal branch is disconnected. 5 profiles are deleted, 50 are disconnected.

And regarding the number of deleted accounts, I don't think 5% is a surprising number. Despite the clear display of WikiTree mission and principles (we're One Family, collaboration etc) it's not unlikely that a small but significative proportion (5%) of newcomers don't grasp exactly what it implies.

Those start building their branch, thinking it is "their tree", until they stumble on someone "mingling with their family" (we read that complaint often in this forum), and suddenly understand the hard way that WikiTree does not work as they thought. They can react promptly by retiring as much of their family as they can, and possibly beforehand disconnecting the public profiles they cannot delete.

I'm pretty sure this kind of scenario is relatively frequent.
I stand corrected again, thanks Bernard :) I didn't know about the private profiles being deleted, but that makes sense (otherwise they would just be forever unusable) and I believe that the data dump does, in fact, have private non-living profiles (although with somewhat limited information).
Shawn, can you share a link for that data dump?
Julie: These are not available via a link. Database dumps are described in this page: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Database_Dumps . If you'd like access, you have to apply for permission and then you can download big CSV files which I have been using to extract various stats using custom software I wrote. Some of this info may be accessible via WikiTree+ ... but I don't know.
FWIW, from the 2021-10-24 data dump to the 2022-02-06 one: 1_052_628 profile_ids were added and 56_171 removed. Among those 56k removed, I did a random sample and 85% are now redirects, the other 15% are presumably deletions (although they could also conceivably be profiles switched from dead->living or in some other complexity of data dumps). So, maybe around 8,000 profiles were deleted from the data dump in this time period. The fact that that disconnected 11,000 profiles seems very believable.

Bernard, I think Shawn may be right.

I don't think there's evidence that a significant proportion of WT newcomers react to not having understood the WT philosophy by deleting, or trying to delete and disconnect, all the profiles they've added.

There are a few obvious cases of enraged newcomers who post to G2G about their disappointment with the site and try to delete what they've added.  But several hundred people a day sign the Honor Code, and that is about a third of the total new members, who are still allowed to add limited family profiles.  While some number of HC signers also leave WT each day, my impression, including from my own contacts, is that most of them simply lose interest.

It's not clear to me from the help page for closing accounts what happens to the deceased private profiles (living profiles with no other PM are deleted).

There are several ways that accounts get closed.  Voluntarily, yet my guess is that most of those people don't leave in anger and don't try to delete their work.  Involuntarily, due to years of inactivity and unresponsiveness to contacts about their profiles.  Again, I doubt those people bother to delete their work.  I think those two group make up the vast majority of people leaving WT.  Then there are the very few intransigent, uncollaborative newcomers that get thrown off.  I doubt that profile deletions based on those few members significantly affects WT statistics.

It is possible to review the contributions of new members by sampling recent Honor Code signers.  Some people treat WT like a Facebook account, adding all their living relatives without ever adding any ancestors or connecting themselves to the main tree.  I can't say what proportion of newcomers that is, but in the cases where they quit WT, all those profiles will be deleted without reducing the connectivity of the tree (in fact, those deletions will increase the connectivity).

Edit re my last point:  That would increase connectivity only if the calculation had included unlisted profiles.

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Thank you for recording and celebrating these milestones, Bernard!
by Chris Whitten G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
+10 votes

This is dynamite smiley I have been trying to connect more of my three One Name Studies folks to the big tree....not easy.

by Maggie N. G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)

One name study does not seem the easy path to connection. Good luck with that. I prefer expanding circles. smiley

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