Working on Clement/Clements

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The lineage of Clement/Clements (Arthur (1931-2005) used Clement, Lionell (1929- abt 2005) and Irene (b after 1931 died abt 1980) used Clements) are from Southbridge Mass.  The lineage is mostly in Quebec/Ontario area.

The above names are the three children

I believe their father was Leo P Clements (b abt 1895 died abt 1984 in MA)

I know their mother was Cecile Millette (b abt 1900 died abt 1948 in MA)

My problem is when I do searches, Cecile comes up as marrying every man in MA except for Leo P Clements.

I have traced names, but am going through more in depth verfications trying to get more than one certification to build trust in my research.

Any help would be great.

I don't know for sure

Cecile's parents

Leo P Clements (trying to verify that Alfred Clements and Mary P Trembley were the parents.
in Genealogy Help by Living Clement G2G4 (4.2k points)
Name: Cecile Millette
Marriage Year: 1931
Marriage Place: Adams, Massachusetts, USA
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 155
Index Volume Number: 111
Reference Number: F63.M36 v.111
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bad record

I think this is your record:

Name: Li Clement One
Marriage Year: 1927
Marriage Place: Dudley, Massachusetts, USA
Volume Number: 14
Page Number: 208
Index Volume Number: 97
Reference Number: F63.M36 v.97
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Last record shows male as "Lionel"

 

Betty
Lionell is my uncle

My father was Arthur Joseph (legally changed name to Joseph Arthur).

I'll try to keep looking, maybe there are two generations Lionell.
Yes indeed. The Lionel listed above married Cecile Millette. Perhaps Leo is short for Lionel?

 

Betty
Name: Leo P Clement
Certificate: 046685
Death Place: Southbridge
Death Date: 25 Oct 1983
Birth Place: Massachusetts
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1906

 

Name: Leo Clement
SSN: 019-09-4938
Last Residence:
01550 Southbridge, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
BORN: 30 Dec 1906
Last Benefit: 01550, Southbridge, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States of America
Died: Oct 1983
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

 

Name: Cecile Theresa Clements
Social Security #: 124282453
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1910
Birth Place: Massachusetts
Death Date: 3 Feb 1979
Death Place: San Francisco

 

Philomon Clement
[Philomen Clement] 
[Philomon Trombley] 
Age: 27
Birth Date: Jun 1872
Birthplace: Canada
[Canada French] 
Home in 1900: Lowell Ward 2, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1893
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Alfred Clement
Marriage Year: 1897
Years Married: 3
Father's Name: Exiphanne Trombley
Father's Birthplace: France, Canada
Mother's name: Philissa Trombley
Mother's Birthplace: Canada, France
Mother: number of living children: 2
Mother: How many children: 2
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Clement 25
Philomon Clement 27
John A Clement 2
Francis E Clement 1
Exiphanne Trombley 58
Philissa Trombley 66
Majoire Trombley 20
 
This Cecile is the wrong one because my grandmother passed away when my father was 17 (1948) prior to him enlisting into the Marine Corps

How about this record?

Name: Cecile Schlag Clement
Death Date: 1948
Death Place: Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
Volume Number: 105
Page Number: 50
Index Volume Number: 107
Reference Number: F63.M363 v.107

 

Last record shows maiden name Milleta.

Betty
I want to thank everyone for helping me out.  Most of my stuff was right, but wasn't getting much on the citation parts.

What drives me nuts is 1. trying to read hand writing (I have no worldy idea how the pros do it.) and 2. they use nicknames, middle names, partial names on so many 'official' documents.

Still learning here.

 

thank you all again.
I'm glad I could help you. In addition to the problem with keeping the names consistent, women are almost 100% guilty of lying about their ages on censuses......censi?

THAT is another obstacle that is difficult to surmount.

Good luck with your search and if you need any more help don't hesitate to ask.

Betty

1 Answer

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This census data  indicates he was born abt. 1907 in RI?

United States Census, 1940 Southbridge, Worcester, MA

Citing this Record: "United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K4JH-VNC), Leo P Clement, Southbridge Town, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 14-248, sheet 1A, family 7, NARA digital publication T627 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012), roll 1654.

Leo P Clement  Head M 33 Rhode Island

Cecile Clement  Wife F 30 Massachusetts

Lionel Clement  Son M 11 Massachusetts

Arthur Clement  Son M 9 Massachusetts

Irene Clement  Daughter F 7 Massachusetts

 

United States Census, 1930 Southbridge, Worcester, MA

Citing this Record: "United States Census, 1930," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQTW-PPL), Cecile Clement in household of Delima Clement, Southbridge, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 0267, sheet 5A, family 99, line 23, NARA microfilm publication T626, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 965; FHL microfilm 2,340,700.

Delima Clement  Head F 72 Canada

Leonel Clement  Boarder M 23 Rhode Island

Cecile Clement  Boarder's wife F 20 Massachusetts

Leonel Clement  Boarder's son M 2 Massachusetts

by Chris Hoyt G2G6 Pilot (868k points)

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