Comments on Elizabeth (Newdigate) Poyntz

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On 24 Feb 2021 Anonymous Baker wrote on Newdigate-7:

There is contradictory information regarding Katherine Ferrers nee Hampden being the mother of Elizabeth Poyntz nee Newdigate. 

There are multiple secondary/tertiary sources, cited in pedigrees/visitations/published works, which name Katherine as the mother. However, there is one primary source which gives a name to the first wife of Thomas Newdigate (and therefore the mother of Elizabeth Newdigate) and that is the Will of Elizabeth’s father, Thomas Newdigate of Wivelsfield, which was made on 4 April 1559. 

In his Will Thomas makes bequests to ‘George Vavyser’ and ‘Thomas Vavisor’ who he identifies as “my late wife’s brothers”. 

These bequests, I would suggest, preclude Katherine Ferrers nee Hampden from being cited as the wife of Thomas Newdigate. 

It should also be noted that whilst Thomas Newdigate makes bequests to the children of Jane, his second wife, by her previous two marriages, it is significant that there is no bequest for an ‘Edward Ferrers’ who was the son of Katherine Ferrers nee Hampden from her first marriage. 

Given the above I am proposing the removal of Katherine Newdigate nee Hampden as the mother of Elizabeth Poyntz nee Newdigate.

WikiTree profile: Elizabeth Poyntz
in Genealogy Help by Anonymous Baker G2G6 Mach 3 (38.2k points)
retagged by Traci Thiessen

2 Answers

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According to what I found bd 1548, father Thomas Newdigate.  Death 1602 Reigate Uk Found on geni other familypedia.wikia.org

Hope it helps

Wen
by Wen Rosmann G2G5 (5.7k points)
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According to the ODNB entry for Sebastian Newdigate, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Newdegate-6, Sebastian was the husband of Katherine Hampden, and became a monk after her death: Sebastian was executed in 1535. If that is right, it rules out Katherine as mother of Elizabeth. On the other hand, apparently Surrey Visitations show a Katherine Hampden as wife of Thomas Newdigate and mother of Elizabeth - see this thread in soc.genealogy.medieval: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/KsICdXo5TpU/m/fkEtxKjAUQMJ. I have not had time to check out the Visitations, but they probably need to be looked at.
by Michael Cayley G2G6 Pilot (235k points)

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