Brick Wall - McNabb-872

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Hi all,

My 3rd great-grandmother was Margaret McNabb Shrader (McNabb-872). She was born in Pennsylvania in 1813. That is all that I can find.

My mother told me that John McNabb (Catholic) married Margaret Mitchell (Protestant) in Londonderry, Ireland in the 1760s or 70s. Her father was a prosperous linen draper who loaned money to the crown and was made a baronet. When his daughter married a Catholic, he disowned her. They fled to the colonies where John fought in the Revolutionary War.

I cannot find the links to prove/disprove my mother's romantic story.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Claire
WikiTree profile: Margaret Shrader
in Genealogy Help by Claire Nava G2G6 Mach 3 (33.3k points)
See if you can find her Naturalization record,or application.

Often it shows parents names.
Thanks for your response.

1850 Census says that she was born in Pennsylvania in 1813. No naturalization records would apply. I don't know what her parents' names were, so I am not sure how/where to look them up in naturalization records.
The record for her son Marcus is a little confusing. I thought decided the record for his military service must be correct because of the closest relative living which was E.R. Shrader in LA which I assume is your ancestor.  What was interesting is the census lists him as single but there is a pension payment to a wife back in Ohio which does make sense. The name of on the pension in Margaret, his mother's name, but she should have been long dead.
It looks like Family Search thinks her father is McNabb-834 with the exception of the birthplace.
Hi Lance,

Yes, E.R. Shrader is my 2nd great grandfather. Thanks for all the work on the Shraders! Are we related through the Shraders, too? WikiTree says we are both from Richard Hildreth 10 generations ago.

I saw the woman with the war pension in Ohio on Ancestry, but it's a different Margaret Shrader. That Margaret's maiden name was Carter. Here's the link: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=4654&h=11071991&tid=83333830&pid=30488906709&usePUB=true&_phsrc=nOp1&_phstart=successSource.

Do you have this McNabb/Mitchell story in your family?

not related to me at all. just working on your question, seeing if I could help with your brick wall. 

Well I think the Marcus who has her listed is also your relative but I dont understand why. 
Assuming that this is fact-based and not some fairy story, McNabb-834 doesn't work as Margaret's father. It sounds as though McNabb-Mitchell were Margaret's grandparents. Pure supposition follows:

McNabb-Mitchell - arrive in the colonies in 1770s =

McNabb son (born 1785 more or less) + Unknown wife =

Margaret b. 1813 in Pennsylvania m. John Shrader in Ohio
Thank you, that's kind.

I'll work on Marcus, too.
I am Vicki McNabb 777, in WikiTree.

In Chester County PA

There is a John McNabb, b. 1824 and sister Margaret Jane McNabb. There were 13 of them (siblings.)

John McNabb married Susanna Adams b.1829

Margaret and John's parents were John McNabb b.1780, and Sarah (Parrish) McNabb b.1785. All moved on to Ohio.

I hope this helps you.
Thanks again for the note. I wanted you to know that I have followed up on it. I got caught up in other things and didn't come back to William and Margaret, so I do appreciate the reminder.

I have made profiles for both William McNabb (McNabb-1658) and Margaret (Mitchell) NcNabb (Mitchell-40476). I have also added stubs for their children - birth/death dates, locations. Few solid sources so far. Ancestry found a possible father, but it would have made her born in Scotland in the wrong month. Not too likely for an Irish Catholic girl.

The names, dates you gave me could still match up, I think.

I will definitely spend more time on this branch of "our" family tree and see where it leads.

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It appears Margaret (McNabb) Shrader is the son of John McNabb and Mary Young.  John McNabb appears to be the son of William McNabb and Margaret Mitchell.   

Sources: 

From the "History of Juniata Valley and it's People":

(I) William McNabb, his great-grandfather, came to America from 
Ireland in the latter part of the eighteenth century, and settled in the 
eastern part of Pennsylvania, after a voyage of three months' duration. 
He died in Derry township, Mifflin county, Pennsylvania, at the age 
of about seventy years. He married Margaret Mitchell, who had come 



HISTORY OF THE JUNIATA VALLEY 1225 

to America on the same vessel. They had children: Rohert ; John; 
William, see forward; James. 

https://archive.org/stream/historyofjuniata03jord/historyofjuniata03jord_djvu.txt

From "This History of Macon County, Illinois": 

E McNABB architect and builder was born in Centre county Pennsylvania on the seventeenth of September 1823. His ancestors were Scotch and emigrated to the north of Ireland at the time of the religious persecution which drove so many Protestants from Scotland His grandfather came to America shortly after the Revolutionary war he married a woman of Irish descent by the name of Mitchell. John McNabb the father of the subject of this sketch was born in Pennsylvania and married Mary Young a native of the same state. John McNabb was a mechanic but after his removal to Richland now Ashland county Ohio in the year 1834 he engaged in farming. He died in that county as did also Mr McNabb's mother. The subject of this biographical sketch was the seventh of ten children...

link to source: https://books.google.com/books?id=RP1LAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA149&lpg=PA149&dq=john+mcnabb+centre+county+pennsylvania&source=bl&ots=blICTkKrhk&sig=ACfU3U3ijj87aW2HZD5IF2-5EPU1VUCQhg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFicHJ1qboAhXTmHIEHZRRCwMQ6AEwAHoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20mcnabb%20centre%20county%20pennsylvania&f=false

Similarly, from "History of Dekalb County, Indiana":

Warren McNabb is a native of DeKalb county in which he spent his entire life his birth having occurred there on July 26 1857 His parents David and Sophia Dunfee McNabb were among the early settlers of the county David was a native of Center county Pennsylvania born December 9 1819 and was a son of John and Mary Young McNabb also a native of that state the father being of Scotch descent and the mother of Swiss and English ancestry W hen David McNabb was but thirteen years of age the family moved to Ashland county Ohio where they remained until 1843 when they came to DeKalb county Indiana and entered eighty acres of wild land in section 35 Fairfield township There he built a cabin home in which 

https://books.google.com/books?id=sgQUAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA422&lpg=PA422&dq=john+mcnabb+centre+county+pennsylvania&source=bl&ots=yL9XMqgsb5&sig=ACfU3U3E0jZ8YH-QoDRuwbAnxOb2EG8Weg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFicHJ1qboAhXTmHIEHZRRCwMQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20mcnabb%20centre%20county%20pennsylvania&f=false

And one more account:

Looking for any information on Mitchell family who were linen merchants in Londonderry in the 17760s-80s & beyond - possible gentry? Daughter Margaret Mitchell b. 1761 ran away with a man to Philadelphia. She ended up marring another man she met on the vessel, William McNabb also form Londonderry.
Decades later (1820s) her family tried to claim a considerable inheritance from the Mitchell estate but could not prove she was indeed a Mitchell heir as she never signed her name as such.
I know- a crock? but that is the story - looking for any clues!

https://www.genealogy.com/forum/regional/countries/topics/ireland/londonderry/1522/

by Anonymous Nagel G2G6 Mach 3 (37.4k points)
selected by Claire Nava
Brilliant detective work, A. Nagel! Can't wait to dig into it!!

Thank you,

Claire
Are you an expert in Pennsylvanian history or is there a particular search that you used to narrow down the results on on Archive.org?
Most of the texts are titled “History of”, so usually I start with that in quotes in google followed by the names of the people I’m looking for.  It helps to have a location as well and in your post, you mentioned Pennsylvania.  It probably was easier for me since I study mostly in Pennsylvania texts.  Some of the texts start with “genealogical and personal history of” as well.

In general though, I like a good puzzle.  Fun!
If you really want to dig deep, look into the company Carson, Barclay, and Mitchell.  Note that the William Mitchell that was one of the partners, was probably related to the Mitchell family in Londonderry Ireland, that disowned your Margaret Mitchell.

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