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Gateway Descendants from Edward III

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Gateway Descendants from Edward III (American)

Edward III with The Black Prince.
The goal is to identify gateway ancestors with well-documented and proven descents from Edward III, king of England.

Use the Relationship Finder to find if you have a connection to Edward III, king of England (Plantagenet-70). Does your gateway ancestor appear below?

Do you have a gateway ancestor from a population group other than American colonial immigrants (e.g. Australian, South African, European, etc.)? Post them on G2G and we will create new categories and new lists to track them. The line must be very well documented.

17th Century New World Immigrants

Below is a list of 17th century new world immigrants with a recognized descent from Edward III, king of England. The list was kindly provided by Douglas Richardson, author of the Royal Ancestry series.

Gateway Ancestors to Edward III
Essex Beville William Bladen George Blakiston Nehemiah Blakiston
Elizabeth Bosvile Mary Bourchier George Brent Giles Brent
Robert Brent Stephen Bull Charles Calvert Edward Carleton
St. Leger Codd Elizabeth Coytemore Thomas Coytemore William Crymes
Humphrey Davie Frances Deighton Jane Deighton Katherine Deighton
Edward Digges Robert Drake Rowland Ellis John Fenwick
John Fisher Henry Fleete Edward Foliot Muriel Gurdon
Elizabeth Harleston John Harleston Warham Horsmanden Patrick Houston
Anne Humphrey Mary Launce Hannah Levis Samuel Levis
Sarah Levis Thomas Ligon Nathaniel Littleton Thomas Lloyd
Agnes Mackworth Oliver Manwaring Anne Mauleverer Richard More
Joseph Need Mary Need John Nelson Margaret Nelson
Philip Nelson Thomas Nelson Thomas Owsley John Oxenbridge
Herbert Pelham Robert Peyton William Pole Elizabeth Pole
Henry Randolph William Randolph George Reade William Rodney
Thomas Rudyard Katherine Saint Leger Richard Saltonstall William Skepper
Mary Somerset Samuel Torrey William Torrey Margaret Touteville
John West Hawte Wyatt

This list currently is 70 individuals representing 55 different families. Of the 70 individuals, 32 settled in the Southern Colonies, 27 in the New England Colonies, and 11 were part of the Quaker migration to the Middle Colonies.

Confirmed Additions

Additional Gateway Ancestors Status and comments
William Asfordby 17th century immigrant (1674) with a proven ancestry. Traced in Royal Ancestry.
Charles Barnes 17th century immigrant (1655) with a proven ancestry. Traced in Royal Ancestry. NEHGR v158: 319-329.
Marmaduke Beckwith Not traced by Richardson but has many well-established lines to Edward III.
William Farrar 17th century immigrant (1618) with a proven ancestry. Traced in Royal Ancestry.
Elizabeth Mansfield 17th century immigrant (1632) with a proven ancestry. Traced in Royal Ancestry.
Anne Mansfield 17th century immigrant (1635) with a proven ancestry. Traced in Royal Ancestry.
John Mansfield 17th century immigrant (1635) with a proven ancestry. Traced in Royal Ancestry.
Robert Spotswood 18th century immigrant (1710) with a proven ancestry. Traced in Royal Ancestry.
Robert Rose 18th century immigrant. Not in Royal Ancestry, but persuasive arguments on profiles and on SGM.
Margaret Toshach Arrived with the 1684 Earl of Perth expedition to the American colonies led by her brother, David Toshack, 8th Laird of Monzievaird.
Elizabeth Cooke Descendant of Cecilia Neville. See notes regarding her parentage which overwhelmingly supports Ralph Neville, Lord Neville being her father.
Jeremy Clarke Another descendant of Cecilia Neville.
Stephen Terry Another descendant of Cecilia Neville.
Thomas Craighead. Immigrated in 1714 to first Boston and then Pennsylvania. Well documented line to Edward III.
Immigrated with her brother in 1714.

Australian Gateway Ancestors

Australian Gateway Ancestors Status and comments
Augusta Suffield Immigrant in 1839. Unpublished but traceable in each generation. See G2G. Proposed by Mark Hutchinson.
Herbert William Rigg Immigrant to Australia. In addition to Edward III he his ancestors include more recent monarchs such as James V, king of Scots and Henry VII, king of England.
Charlotte Frances (Dana) Champion Crespigny (1820 - 1904) Immigrant in 1852. Traceable in each generation to link to Gordon family. See G2G. Proposed by Anne Young.
Judge Robert Molesworth (1806-1890) A well known judge who immigrated to Australia in 1852. Traceable in each generation through the families of Cole, Chichester, Bourchier, to king Edward III.

Working Section

Proposed Gateway Ancestors Status and comments
Francis Norwood-316 He was not a son of Thomas Norwood. Ancestry unknown. Parents detached.
Constant Southworth-111 Possible/likely? - considered unproven as more evidence is needed to prove
that Edward Southworth of Leiden is the same as Edward son of
Thomas Southworth of Samlesbury.
Thomas Southworth-112 His brother.


Sources

  • Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, in 5 vols. (Salt Lake City, Utah, 2013).
  • Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, exp. 2nd edn. in 3 vols. (Salt Lake City, Utah, 2011).
  • Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, exp. 2nd ed. in 4 vols, (Salt Lake City, Utah, 2011).
Great Migration Series:
  • Anderson, Robert Charles, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, vol. 1 A - F, (Boston: NEHGS, 1995).
  • Anderson, Robert Charles, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, vol. 2 G - O, (Boston:NEHGS, 1995).
  • Anderson, Robert Charles, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, vol. 3 P - W, (Boston: NEHGS, 1995).
  • Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume I, A–B. (Boston: NEHGS, 1999).
  • Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C–F. (Boston; NEHGS, 2001).
  • Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume III, G–H. (Boston: NEHGS, 2003).
  • Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume IV, I–L. (Boston: NEHGS, 2005).
  • Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume V, M–P. (Boston: NEHGS, 2007).
  • Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume VI, R–S. (Boston: NEHGS, 2009).
  • Anderson, Robert Charles. Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume VII, T–Y. (Boston; NEHGS, 2011).




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Dunn-13291 Larry Dunn
Perhaps this is a very basic question but I am confused about the definition of Gateway Ancestors. Are they people in your past that are grandparents or do cousins count as Gateway Ancestors also? I am related to virtually everyone on the list as cousins.
posted by Larry Dunn
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
The first sentence in the original post has a link to a definition of gateway ancestors.

Basically though, a gateway ancestor can be thought of as that key ancestor that leads to a much larger population. In American genealogy, it is usually thought of as the immigrant ancestor that opens up into a much larger known English ancestry. Examples in your own ancestry might be Margaret Wyatt, Mark Lathrop, Peter Worden and Elizabeth Overton (I have not checked these). So of the 2000+ theoretical ancestors you might have in the 11th generation, I can quickly identify 4 gateway ancestors which lead to a much wider English ancestry. None however have a direct line to Edward III.

posted by Joe Cochoit
Donaldson-2964 Kathy Donaldson
I am not sure of the goal of this exercise.

Are you searching for a lineal or (direct) or an indirect descendant to a gateway?

posted by Kathy Donaldson
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
Thank you for the question, Kathy. I wish I could pin it to the top. There are several goals for this exercise. To answer your most basic question, we are looking for direct lines only. Your privacy level is set too high for me to see your family tree and run the Relationship Finder to see your connection to Edward III. If you lower it one or two spots, we could check your line.

As to why do we do this... First, many people will say they have these connections to English nobility and but also say they don't know if it is correct or doubt that it is correct. This is a way to give people some confidence that yes, the connections have all been researched and their line is good.

Second, there is a relatively small number of gateway ancestors to Edward III. Richardson in his Royal Ancestry series only recognizes 70. This is a way to find and document more lines which are not generally known or accepted.

Finally, and most important to me, medieval genealogy was (and is) a mess on WikiTree because of the import of thousands of errors found on the internet through gedcoms in the early days of WikiTree. The great advantage of WikiTree is that we can correct those mistakes and clean the errors from WikiTree. I may say medieval genealogy is still a mess on WikiTree, but it is also the most accurate database of its kind on the internet and improving daily. This is a way to find those errors and fix them. I have corrected the genealogy of dozens or even hundreds of incorrect lines posted in this project and elsewhere. If your gateway ancestor is not on the lists above, there is likely a mistake somewhere. So, we look for it, research it, and correct the problem in WikiTree. Since we are looking at people so far back in time, we end up correcting the family tree of many thousands of WikiTree volunteers and others interested in genealogy.

posted by Joe Cochoit
Jk Knowlton
Went thru the whole list on the relationship finder (We have 28 common ancestors on my Father's side mainly) and Edward III and I are cousins by way of His 2ndGreat Grandmother: Isabelle (Angouleme) de Lusignan, is my 22nd Great Grandmother. As everyone else on list I am related from 2nd cousin to 12th cousin by someone related to Edward III and I: all lead to these: John LeStrange, Joan Wydeville, Margaret De Tafford, Isabel Frowyk Haute, Alice (FitzPiers) de St John, Reverend William Skepper (surety Baron and puritan migration)

Only ones that didn't show a connection are the ones under working section. only maybe by marriage!

posted by Jk Knowlton
Callais-10 Chris Callais
While not relevant to Edward III gateways it’s likely William Wentworth of NH has a descent from Edward I as follows:

1. Edward I 2. Elizabeth of Rhuddlan 3. Eleanor Bohun 4. Pernel Butler 5. Richard Talbot 6. Mary Talbot 7. Thomas Greene 8. Elizabeth Greene 9. Mary Sandford 10. Mary Newcomen 11. Agnes Brough 12. Ellen Gilby 13. Christopher Wentworth 14. William Wentworth 15. William Wentworth (the immigrant)

Generations 10-11 are the only ones not connected on Wikitree but many sources including Burke’s LG and the 1562 visitation of Lincolnshire indicate the line from John Gilby and Agnes Brough up through John Sandford of Thorpe Salvain and his wife Elizabeth Greene. Stirnet etc also indicate this lineage. The dates work as well:

Elizabeth Greene b c.1443 Mary Sandford b c.1470 Mary Newcomen b c.1490 Agnes Brough b c.1507 Ellen Gilby b c.1525

Worth a look by a pre-1500 qualified Wikitree contributor imho.

posted by Chris Callais
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
This line fails at generations 13-14. Agnes Brough was not a daughter of Mary Newcomen. It is an error in the Visitations. I will put more details on the profiles as I get time.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Callais-10 Chris Callais
Interesting. Can you give any information around what source(s) identify this as an error? Thanks.
posted by Chris Callais
Callais-10 Chris Callais
Nevermind, found the discussion on gen.medieval.

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/tGxxAyyZws4

posted by Chris Callais
Weathers-1453 Laura Weathers
Through the relationship finder Laura Weathers Holl (Weathers-1453) is the 19th great granddaughter of Edward III, king of England (Plantagenet-70). There are 3 different paths found between Edward and Laura, the below is the shortest line.

1. Laura is the daughter of Robert Dunlap Weathers (1939-1986) [unknown confidence] 2. Robert is the son of John Franklin Weathers (1908-abt.1979) [confident] 3. John is the son of Nora Belle (Brightman) Weathers (1878-1969) [unknown confidence] 4. Nora is the daughter of Virginia Wingfield (1850-1912) [unknown confidence] 5. Virginia is the daughter of Anderson Wingfield (1805-bef.1851) [unknown confidence] 6. Anderson is the son of Charles Wingfield (1762-bef.1819) [unknown confidence] 7. Charles is the son of Josiah Wingfield (abt.1739-abt.1819) [unknown confidence] 8. Josiah is the son of Robert Wingfield (1697-1769) [unknown confidence] 9. Robert is the son of Thomas Wingfield (abt.1664-abt.1720) [unknown confidence] 10. Thomas is the son of John Wingfield (bef.1623-1678) [confident] 11. John is the son of Frances (Cromwell) Wingfield (abt.1603-1662) [confident] 12. Frances is the daughter of Edward Cromwell (abt.1560-1607) [unknown confidence] 13. Edward is the son of Mary (Paulet) Cromwell (abt.1540-1592) [confident] 14. Mary is the daughter of Elizabeth (Willoughby) Paulet (abt.1510-1552) [unknown confidence] 15. Elizabeth is the daughter of Dorothy (Grey) Willoughby (1480-aft.1552) [confident] 16. Dorothy is the daughter of Cecily (Bonville) Grey (1461-1530) [confident] 17. Cecily is the daughter of Katherine (Neville) Hastings (abt.1435-bef.1504) [unknown confidence] 18. Katherine is the daughter of Richard (Neville) de Neville KG (abt.1400-abt.1460) [unknown confidence] 19. Richard is the son of Joan (Beaufort) de Neville LG (1379-1440) [confident] 20. Joan is the daughter of John (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG (abt.1340-1399) [confident] 21. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England (1312-1377) [confident]

I am cousins to all on the list so this makes Edward the 19th great grandfather of Laura.

posted by Laura Weathers
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
Laura,

Can you post this line on the G2G question Edward III Project: Gateway Ancestors - do you have one? (Round 3).

posted by Joe Cochoit
Jeffrey Payne
From my 3rd great grandmother Eliza Hickman Reade upto the Fortrey's leads a direct descent from the royals including Edward the 3rd..and from Mary Fortrey, and the Hickman/Greene side leads to present day royals such as the Cravens,Cadogan, Wyndham..also the Harley/Loftis/Sims /Winn on my grandmother's Gaulding side lead to the royals and other interesting family
posted by Jeffrey Payne
edited by Jeffrey Payne
Van Norman-127 Joy (Van Norman) Wright
Through the Relationship Finder there are four pathways to Edward III for Van_Norman-127.

He is apparently my 18th Grandfather. I saved the file.

posted by Joy (Van Norman) Wright
K Malady
Bohun-7 is my 24th great granddaughter (Uncertain)

Kelly is the daughter of [private mother] [confident] 2. [Private] is the daughter of Doris Gertrude (Belyea) DiNatale (1923-2005) [unknown confidence] 3. Doris is the daughter of Walter Currie Belyea (1897-1973) [unknown confidence] 4. Walter is the son of Ward Havelock Belyea (1863-1937) [unknown confidence] 5. Ward is the son of Lewis Allen Belyea (1829-1911) [unknown confidence] 6. Lewis is the son of James Robinson Belyea (abt.1802-1887) [unknown confidence] 7. James is the son of William Belyea (1771-1862) [unknown confidence] 8. William is the son of Hendrick Bulyea UEL (1720-1802) [confident] 9. Hendrick is the son of Helena (Willemse) Boulier (abt.1697-aft.1737) [confident] 10. Helena is the daughter of Robert (Williams) Williamszen (bef.1670-abt.1750) [unknown confidence] 11. Robert is the son of Hope Williams (1650-1704) [unknown confidence] 12. Hope is the son of Sarah (Washburn) Williams (bef.1626-abt.1694) [unknown confidence] 13. Sarah is the daughter of William Washburne (bef.1601-1658) [confident] 14. William is the son of John Franklon (Washburn) Washborne (bef.1551-abt.1624) [confident] 15. John is the son of John (Washbourne) Washeborne (bef.1518-1593) [confident] 16. John is the son of John (Washbourne) Wassheburne of Bengeworth (abt.1479-bef.1547) [confident] 17. John is the son of Joan (Mitton) de Washbourne (abt.1460-aft.1483) [uncertain] 18. Joan is the daughter of William Mytton Esq. (1415-aft.1489) [confident] 19. William is the son of Margaret (Peshale) Mitton (abt.1393-1420) [confident] 20. Margaret is the daughter of Joyce (Botetourt) Peshale (abt.1348-abt.1420) [unknown confidence] 21. Joyce is the daughter of Joyce (Zouche) Botetourt (abt.1318-aft.1376) [unknown confidence] 22. Joyce is the daughter of Alice (Toeni) la Zouche (bef.1283-abt.1325) [confident] 23. Alice is the daughter of Raoul (Toeni) de Tony (1255-1295) [confident] 24. Raoul is the son of Alice (Bohun) de Tony (abt.1238-aft.1270) [confident] 25. Alice is the daughter of Humphrey (Bohun) de Bohun (abt.1200-1275) [confident] 26. Humphrey is the son of Henry (Bohun) de Bohun (abt.1175-1220) [confident] most of these I checked on your list are are cousins

posted by K Malady
Diana (Teasley) Drake
I am cousins with everyone on the above list per the relationship finder.

This makes Edward the 21st great grandfather of Diana.

posted by Diana (Teasley) Drake
edited by Diana (Teasley) Drake
Oosterhoudt-24 Geoff Oosterhoudt
I would like to see where we are in the process for the Sims/Symes, Dudley, Savage, and Wingfield lines of Virginia. I noticed they're not in the working section.
posted by Geoff Oosterhoudt
Fox-19194 John C. Fox
John "Chief" Russell Russell-17137 ,

Eighth great grandson 1. John is the son of Elizabeth (Sheldon) Russell (1552-) [unknown confidence] 2. Elizabeth is the daughter of Anne (Throckmorton) Sheldon (abt.1530-1603) [unknown confidence] 3. Anne is the daughter of Robert Throckmorton Knt. (abt.1510-1581) [unknown confidence] 4. Robert is the son of Katherine (Vaux) Throckmorton (abt.1488-abt.1571) [unknown confidence] 5. Katherine is the daughter of Elizabeth (Fitzhugh) Parr (abt.1460-bef.1508) [unknown confidence] 6. Elizabeth is the daughter of Alice (Neville) FitzHugh (abt.1430-aft.1503) [unknown confidence] 7. Alice is the daughter of Richard (Neville) de Neville KG (abt.1400-abt.1460) [unknown confidence] 8. Richard is the son of Joan (Beaufort) de Neville LG (1379-1440) [confident] 9. Joan is the daughter of John (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG (abt.1340-1399) [confident] 10. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England (1312-1377) [confident] This makes Edward the eighth great grandfather of John.

Brig. Gen. William Russell Sr. (Russell-1769 - Born 6 Mar 1735 in Orange, Virginia) is a likely descendant.

Is this the best place to discuss this? Or is there someplace better? Thx!

posted by John C. Fox
edited by John C. Fox
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
Hi John,

Please post these lines to the G2G question: Edward III Project: Gateway Ancestors - do you have one? (Round 3).

Joe

posted by Joe Cochoit
Fox-19194 John C. Fox
Anyone else notice tht David Kincaid is a direct descendent not only from Edward III but also James IV King of Scotland, according to the info here in WikiTree - Kincaid-18? Easily verified by Relation Finder. Also Robert the Bruce etc.

I was hoping I'm related through the David Gwin>Robert Gwin line, but now I'm not too sure. But it's still pretty cool.

posted by John C. Fox
Sayers-1556 Shonda (Sayers) Feather
My pending Gateway ancestor, Alexander Falconar, is a direct descendant of Edward III through James IV King of Scotland through his illegitimate daughter, Margaret (Stewart) Drummond.
posted by Shonda (Sayers) Feather
Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
Edward III is my 22 great grandfather. My gateway ancestor is William Farrar. Surprisingly, all the connections are confident for once!
posted by Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
Elizabeth (Adams) Greenway
I think it would be very helpful for all of these to be in a "category." That way we can check if our ancestors are already included with the click of a button.
posted by Elizabeth (Adams) Greenway
Virginia (Rutherford) Emerson
I have a connection to Edward III, but not a Gateway. I have an information gap at John Lloyd, born March 4, 1768 in Pennsylvania, possibly Philadelphia. He moved to Virginia at age of 3, and died in Porter, NY. The Lloyd family was prominent in Pennsylvania in the Gateway era, including Thomas Lloyd (1641-1694), an early settler in Pennsylvania. Can anyone tell me how to fill the gap? I have no proof of his parentage at all. His daughter’s Bible, which I have, go to great lengths to speak of her father’s life for several pages. But no mention of any info of her grandparents’ identity. It is odd and makes me wonder if there was a family scandal surrounding his birth. Any ideas out there how to fill this gap?
posted by Virginia (Rutherford) Emerson
Samantha Latimer
I have a direct relationship to Edward III, he is my 18th great grandfather.
posted by Samantha Latimer
Smith-56571 EuGene Smith
The relationship finder shows that I (Smith-56571) am the 19th great grandson of Edward III

EuGene Smith is 21 Degrees from Edward III of England

19th great grandson

1. EuGene is the son of Betty (Patterson) Smith [confident] 2. Betty is the daughter of Margaret Melinda (Whillock) Patterson (1905-1979) [confident] 3. Margaret is the daughter of Rebecca Jane (Willcox) Whillock (1866-1950) [confident] 4. Rebecca is the daughter of Malinda (Phillips) Willcox (1843-1879) [confident] 5. Malinda is the daughter of John Phillips (abt.1806-1884) [confident] 6. John is the son of Patience (Clay) Phillips (abt.1765-abt.1820) [confident] 7. Patience is the daughter of Charles Clay (abt.1740-aft.1810) [confident] 8. Charles is the son of Henry Clay II (1711-1764) [confident] 9. Henry is the son of Margaret Hannah (Mitchell) Clay (1693-1777) [confident] 10. Margaret is the daughter of Elizabeth (Innes) Mitchell (1673-abt.1769) [confident] 11. Elizabeth is the daughter of Andrew Innes (abt.1630-) [unknown confidence] 12. Andrew is the son of Elizabeth (Douglas) Innes (1589-1655) [confident] 13. Elizabeth is the daughter of Elizabeth (Sutherland) Douglas (abt.1570-abt.1642) [confident] 14. Elizabeth is the daughter of Alexander (Sutherland) Sutherland VIIIth of Duffus (1534-1570) [confident] 15. Alexander is the son of Elizabeth (Stewart) Stewart Lady Kintail (abt.1515-1567) [unknown confidence] 16. Elizabeth is the daughter of John (Stewart) Stewart Second Earl of Atholl (aft.1475-abt.1521) [unknown confidence] 17. John is the son of John (Stewart) Stewart of Balveny First Earl of Atholl (abt.1440-1512) [confident] 18. John is the son of Joan (Beaufort) Queen Dowager of Scots (abt.1402-abt.1445) [confident] 19. Joan is the daughter of John Beaufort KG (abt.1371-1410) [confident] 20. John is the son of John (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG (abt.1340-1399) [confident] 21. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England (1312-1377) [confident]

Generations 15 & 16 are shown as "unknown confidence"...I will probably need help from folks with a lot more experience than I have to prove those connections, if they are true.

EuGene Smith. 56571 Clinton, AR 501-253-0487

posted by EuGene Smith
Boyle-2287 Joseph Boyle
20th great grandson

1. [Private] is the son of Patricia Allan (Vreeland) Boyle (1936-2005) [unknown confidence] 2. Patricia is the daughter of Edwin Wesley Vreeland (1910-1996) [unknown confidence] 3. Edwin is the son of Mary Elizabeth (Hawley) Vreeland (1880-1960) [unknown confidence] 4. Mary is the daughter of George Phillips Hawley Sr (1832-1917) [unknown confidence] 5. George is the son of Miranda Orcelia (Phillips) Atkins (1813-1910) [unknown confidence] 6. Miranda is the daughter of George Washington Phillips (1788-1871) [unknown confidence] 7. George is the son of Augustus Phillips (1765-1841) [unknown confidence] 8. Augustus is the son of Elijah Phillips (1743-1829) [unknown confidence] 9. Elijah is the son of Freelove (Wilkinson) Phillips (1701-1784) [unknown confidence] 10. Freelove is the daughter of John Wilkinson (1654-1708) [unknown confidence] 11. John is the son of Lawrence Wilkinson (abt.1620-1692) [unknown confidence] 12. Lawrence is the son of Mary (Conyers) Wilkinson (1600-) [confident] 13. Mary is the daughter of Anne (Hedworth) Conyers (abt.1562-) [confident] 14. Anne is the daughter of John Hedworth Esquire (abt.1536-abt.1600) [unknown confidence] 15. John is the son of Anne (Hilton) Hedworth (abt.1510-) [unknown confidence] 16. Anne is the daughter of Sybil (Lumley) Hilton (abt.1485-1518) [unknown confidence] 17. Sybil is the daughter of Margaret (Plantagenet) Lumley (aft.1461-aft.1498) [unknown confidence] 18. Margaret is the daughter of Edward (York) of York (1442-1483) [unknown confidence] 19. Edward is the son of Richard (York) of York (1411-1460) [unknown confidence] 20. Richard is the son of Richard (York) of York (1376-1415) [confident] 21. Richard is the son of Edmund (Plantagenet) of Langley KG (1341-1402) [unknown confidence] 22. Edmund is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England (1312-1377) [confident] This makes Edward the 20th great grandfather of Joseph.

Gateway Ancester seems to be Lawrence Wilkinson (abt.1620-1692) not sure on the confidence.

posted by Joseph Boyle
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I've posted comments in response to your answer in the G2G thread (in Round 1), but I think that probably Mary Conyers needs to be disconnected from son Lawrence Wilkinson (and husband William).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Osborn-1290 Teri (Osborn) Taylor
Edward III is the 19th great grandfather of Teri

1. Teri is the daughter of Raymond LeRoy Osborn Senior (1919-2011) DNA confirmed 2. Raymond is the son of Charles Sylvester Osborn (1885-1951) DNA confirmed 3. Charles is the son of Wallace Fremont Osborn (1862-1940) DNA confirmed 4. Wallace is the son of Laura Ann (Hall) Osborn (1825-1904) [unknown confidence] 5. Laura is the daughter of Daniel Hall (1779-1862) [unknown confidence] 6. Daniel is the son of Elizabeth (Swift) Hall (1749-1817) [unknown confidence] 7. Elizabeth is the daughter of Reuben Swift (1717-1773) [unknown confidence] 8. Reuben is the son of Ruth Hatch (1693-abt.1750) [unknown confidence] 9. Ruth is the daughter of Joseph Hatch I (1654-1736) [unknown confidence] 10. Joseph is the son of Jonathan Hatch Sr. (1625-1710) [confident] 11. Jonathan is the son of Thomas Hatch (1599-bef.1661) [confident] 12. Thomas is the son of Arthur Hatch (abt.1578-1625) [confident] 13. Arthur is the son of Cecilia (Chichester) Pollard (abt.1554-1584) [unknown confidence] 14. Cecilia is the daughter of John Chichester (1516-1568) [unknown confidence] 15. John is the son of Elizabeth (Bourchier) Chichester (1500-1548) [confident] 16. Elizabeth is the daughter of John Bourchier KB PC (1470-1539) [confident] 17. John is the son of Fulke Bourchier (1445-1479) [unknown confidence] 18. Fulke is the son of William Bourchier (abt.1412-1471) [unknown confidence] 19. William is the son of Anne (Plantagenet) of Gloucester (1383-1438) [unknown confidence] 20. Anne is the daughter of Thomas (Plantagenet) of Woodstock KG (1355-1397) [unknown confidence] 21. Thomas is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England (1312-1377) [confident] This makes Edward III the 19th great grandfather of Teri.

Not confident in some and need to return and evaluate sourcing

posted by Teri (Osborn) Taylor
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
Teri, can you post this line as an answer on the G2G question Edward III Project: Gateway Ancestors - do you have one? (Round 2), and we will take a look.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Lowe-6149 Nancy (Lowe) Sitzlar
Edward III is the 19th great grandfather of Nancy.

1. Nancy is the daughter of Elmer Lowe DNA confirmed 2. Elmer is the son of Nancy Irene keathley Lowe [confident] 3. [Private] is the daughter of John Keathley (abt.1873-1947) [confident] 4. John is the son of Jane (Massengill) Keathley (1844-1931) [confident] 5. Jane is the daughter of Meshack Hembree (1812-1885) [confident] 6. Meshack is the son of John Henry Hembree Jr (1772-1836) [confident] 7. John is the son of John Hembree (abt.1744-abt.1808) [confident] 8. John is the son of Mary Moore (Ayers) Hembree (1721-1751) [confident] 9. Mary is the daughter of John Moore (1684-1728) [unknown confidence] 10. John is the son of James Elzie Moore Sr. (abt.1639-1706) [unknown confidence] 11. James is the son of Jane (Barnewell) Moore (abt.1600-) [unknown confidence] 12. Jane is the daughter of Mary (Bagenall) Barnewall (1562-1609) [unknown confidence] 13. Mary is the daughter of Eleanor (Griffith) Bagenal (abt.1530-1573) [unknown confidence] 14. Ellen is the daughter of Edward Griffith (1511-1540) [confident] 15. Edward is the son of Jane (Stradling) Griffith (abt.1480-bef.1520) [unknown confidence] 16. Jane is the daughter of Thomas Stradling Esq (aft.1454-1480) [confident] 17. Thomas is the son of Henry Stradling (abt.1412-1476) [confident] 18. Harry is the son of Joan (Beaufort) Stradling (abt.1390-1479) [confident] 19. Jane is the daughter of Henry Beaufort (abt.1374-1447) [confident] 20. Harry is the son of John (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG (abt.1340-1399) [unknown confidence] 21. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England (1312-1377) [confident]

posted by Nancy (Lowe) Sitzlar
edited by Nancy (Lowe) Sitzlar
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
James Moore, Governor of South Carolina is not accepted as a son of Rory O'More and Jane Barnwell.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Hollars-31 Dana Hollars
Edward III is my 21st Great Grandfather. And William Farrar is my gateway immigrant. This was exciting to track down.
posted by Dana Hollars
Robert Young
Hugh Munro Judge 1764-1846 is a Canadian gateway ancestor of mine to Edward III

Relationship between Edward III King of England & Robert A. Young. Edward III King of England 1312-1377 18th great-grandfather John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster 1340-1399 Son of Edward III King of England John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset 1373-1410 Son of John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster Joan Beaufort 1398-1445 Daughter of John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset Annabella Stewart, Princess 1436-1509 Daughter of Joan Beaufort Alexander Gordon, 3rd Earl of Huntly 1460-1524 Son of Annabella Stewart, Princess Alexander Gordon, of Strathavon 1478-1539 Son of Alexander Gordon, 3rd Earl of Huntly Margaret Gordon 1503-1605 Daughter of Alexander Gordon, of Strathavon James Cummings (Comyn) 1536-1624 Son of Margaret Gordon Janet Cumming (Comyn), of Bunchrew 1585-1618 Daughter of James Cummings (Comyn) John Munro Rev of Alness 1604-1662 Son of Janet Cumming (Comyn), of Bunchrew William Munro of Miltown of Katewell 1628- Son of John Munro Rev of Alness Hugh Munro, of Milnton of Katewell 1678-1744 Son of William Munro of Miltown of Katewell Margaret Munro 1730-1814 Daughter of Hugh Munro, of Milnton of Katewell Hugh Munro Judge 1764-1846 Son of Margaret Munro Anne Eliza Munro 1813-1890 Daughter of Hugh Munro Judge Alexander Rankin Ferguson 1844-1887 Son of Anne Eliza Munro Annie Eliza Ferguson 1873-1951 Daughter of Alexander Rankin Ferguson Robert Munro Young 1895-1953 Son of Annie Eliza Ferguson Arthur Munro Young 1931-2007 Son of Robert Munro Young Robert A. Young

posted by Robert Young
McClung-1342 Dennis McClung
Edward III (Plantagenet-70) is my (McClung-1342) 20th great grandfather through my gateway ancestor and 6th great grandmother Rebecca Stuart (Stuart-1001).
posted by Dennis McClung
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
Great line. My only question would be, what is the proof for the parentage of Rebecca and Archibald Stuart?
posted by Joe Cochoit
McClung-1342 Dennis McClung
This was the best I could find: https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000089168832323& “Early Stuart Immigrants in America” (Page 24) which her christening records from Londonberry, Ireland (W.H.Egle's N&Q) cite her parents as Elanor Dalloway and Andrew Stewart.
posted by Dennis McClung
edited by Dennis McClung
Ruest-175 Sarah Ruest
There is a direct ancestral relationship. Edward III (Plantagenet) of England is the great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grand father of Sarah Ruest.

Edward III is the 20th great grandfather of Sarah 1. Sarah is the daughter of Heather (Sturgeon) Ruest [unknown confidence] 2. Heather is the daughter of Eric William Sturgeon [unknown confidence] 3. Eric is the son of John Thomas Sturgeon [unknown confidence] 4. John is the son of William Robert Sturgeon [unknown confidence] 5. William is the son of Caroline Ann (McMinn) Sturgeon [confident] 6. Caroline is the daughter of Alexander McMinn [unknown confidence] 7. Alexander is the son of Ann (Hamilton) McMinn [unknown confidence] 8. Ann is the daughter of Christian (Baillie) Hamilton [unknown confidence] 9. Christian is the daughter of Jane (Forde) Baillie [unknown confidence] 10. Jane is the daughter of Matthew Forde [unknown confidence] 11. Matthew is the son of Margaret (Hamilton) Forde [unknown confidence] 12. Margaret is the daughter of George Hamilton Bart. [unknown confidence] 13. George is the son of James Hamilton [unknown confidence] 14. James is the son of Claud Hamilton [unknown confidence] 15. Claud is the son of James Hamilton [unknown confidence] 16. James is the son of James (Hamilton) Hamilton Earl of Arran 1st [confident] 17. James is the son of Mary (Stewart) Hamilton [unknown confidence] 18. Mary is the daughter of James Stewart [unknown confidence] 19. James II is the son of Joan (Beaufort) Stewart [confident] 20. Joan is the daughter of John Beaufort KG [confident] 21. John is the son of John (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG [confident] 22. John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England [confident] This makes Edward III the 20th great grandfather of Sarah.

posted by Sarah Ruest
Ruest-175 Sarah Ruest
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posted by Sarah Ruest
Frayer-47 Linda (Frayer) Fraser
I'm not sure but believe my gateway ancester to Edward III would be Samuel Hatch-100 from Kent England to Barnstable Mass. Also Bourchier, St Leger, Hawte and Namur, etc. pop up in my ancestors. Linda Frayer-47 Fraser. I'm blown away by all the aristocracy connections I have.
posted by Linda (Frayer) Fraser
Lora (Kartchner) Eckler
Relationship Found

Lora and Edward III are third cousins 21 times removed

Lora (Kartchner) Eckler and Edward III (Plantagenet) of England are both descendants of Henry II Plantagenet. WikiTree shows 50 common ancestors..I picked one 7. John is the son of James M (Wilcox) Willcox [unknown confidence] 8. James is the son of Elizabeth (Cole) Wilcox [unknown confidence] 9. Elizabeth is the daughter of Stephen Cole Sr [unknown confidence] 10. Stephen is the son of Thomas Cole [unknown confidence] 11. Thomas is the son of Thomas Cole [unknown confidence] 12. Thomas is the son of Edmond Cole [unknown confidence] 13. Edmond is the son of Emanuel Cole [unknown confidence] 14. Emanuel is the son of Thomas Cole [unknown confidence] 15. Thomas is the son of John Cole [unknown confidence] 16. John is the son of William Cole [unknown confidence] 17. William is the son of John Cole [unknown confidence] 18. John is the son of Agnes (FitzWarin) Cole [unknown confidence] 19. Agnes is the daughter of Fulk FitzWarin [unknown confidence] 20. Fulk is the son of Fulk FitzWarin [unknown confidence] 21. Fulk is the son of Margaret (Beaumont) FitzWarin [unknown confidence] 22. Margaret is the daughter of Henri (Beaumont) de Beaumont Knt [confident] 23. Henry is the son of Louis (Brienne) de Brienne [unknown confidence] 24. Louis is the son of Berengaria (Bourgogne) de Brienne [unknown confidence] 25. Berengaria is the daughter of Berenguela Alfónsez (Bourgogne) de Castilla [unknown confidence] 26. Berengaria is the daughter of Eleanor Plantagenet [unknown confidence] 27. Eleanor is the daughter of Henry Plantagenet [unknown confidence] This makes Henry II the 25th great grandfather of Lora.

posted by Lora (Kartchner) Eckler
Frayer-47 Linda (Frayer) Fraser
We are 19th cousins and John Cole is 18th Gr Grandfather to both of us. Frayer-47
posted by Linda (Frayer) Fraser
Mychal Lowe
Should also be a Lowther on this list.
posted by Mychal Lowe
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
What's the line?

Since when is there a 30 character limit on comments?

posted by Joe Cochoit
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
when WikiTree changes comments to allow for threads (replies attached to the initial comment & discussion trailing, like in G2G)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Wilson-38495 Jonathan Wilson
How about McElroy-346?
posted by Jonathan Wilson
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
No relationship found by the relationship finder.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Joe Hake
https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1_name=Plantagenet-70&person2_name=Hake-303
  1. 11's John Washington
posted by Joe Hake
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
No relationship found by the relationship finder.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
Randolph, in terms of royal genealogy Edward III is interesting in that he is the latest monarch that most people have any chance of connecting to. For example, the number of gateway ancestors to Edward IV is well under a dozen - the project would be very small and uninteresting. If we choose an earlier monarch such as Edward I or Henry I the number of lines of descent expands exponentially - the project would be too large and even harder to manage than it already is.

Edward III represents a sweet spot in royal genealogy of an interesting monarch with a fair number of proven gateway ancestors, but not an unmanageable number.

posted by Joe Cochoit
Maynard-1339 Randolph Maynard
Just curious, why start with Edward III?
posted by Randolph Maynard
Sue Rattray
Two Robert Drakes or one? Drake-15 married to Joane M (Gawton) Drake on June 6 1622

Drake-61 married to Jane (Gawton) Drake on June 6 1622. But the parents are quite different, although both apparently go back to the Plantagenets...

posted by Sue Rattray
Clarke-12398 Kelly Clarke
Can't find anyone on the list

Edward Plantagenet (1312 - 1377) 19th great-grandfather John of Gaunt Plantagenet, Duke of Lancaster (1340 - 1398) Son of Edward Plantagenet Joan de Beaufort (1373 - 1440) Daughter of John of Gaunt Plantagenet, Duke of Lancaster George Neville Sir (1406 - 1469) Son of Joan de Beaufort Hendrik Neville Lord Latimer (1437 - 1469) Son of George Neville Sir Sir Richard Neville, 2nd Lord Latimer (1468 - 1530) Son of Hendrik Neville Lord Latimer William DE NEVILLE (1497 - 1550) Son of Sir Richard Neville, 2nd Lord Latimer Richard De Neville (1530 - 1590) Son of William DE NEVILLE Eleanor Neville (1597 - 1617) Daughter of Richard De Neville William Henshaw (1610 - 1642) Son of Eleanor Neville Joshua Hancher (Henshaw) (1643 - 1717) Son of William Henshaw

posted by Kelly Clarke
J Briller
Is there also a list of disproven lines? Perhaps the most common ones that keep coming back and need to be repeatedly disconnected? I suspect that it is possible my connection might be on that list...
posted by J Briller
Narramore-70 E J (Narramore) Gooden
Edward III is my 20th great grandfather. Says relationship finder..! I can't find anyone on the list though.
posted by E J (Narramore) Gooden
Narramore-70 E J (Narramore) Gooden
Edward III is my 20th great grandfather. Says relationship finder..!
posted by E J (Narramore) Gooden
Smith-148141 Pamela Smith
Edward III, king of England is my 3rd cousin 24 ×'s removed I also took the time to go through each person on the list if connection finder is correct I'm related to all 70 from 4th cousin to 19th cousins plus I checked the names below that are additional gateway ancestors and I was related to them peter worden 1 is my 11th great grandfather he was a gateway ancestor and through him I found I'm related to a lot of Royolty
posted by Pamela Smith