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Johan Peter Reitz (1690 - 1732)

Johan Peter (Peter) Reitz
Born in Gelnhausen, Main-Kinzig-Kreis, Hessen, Germanymap
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[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 4 Jan 1715 in Lohrhaupten, Hessen-Kassel, Heiliges Römisches Reichmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 41 in Lohrhaupten, Hessen-Kassel, Heiliges Römisches Reichmap
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Biography

Marriage 4 Jan 1715 in Lohrhaupten. Peter Reitz was married with seiner geschwächten Dirne Magdalena Weygand.[1]

Death 2 Dec 1741 in Lohrhaupten. Hans Peter Reitz passed away at the age of 41 1/2 years.[2]

Notes JOHANNES PETER REITZ, (also called Hans Peter, Johann Peter, or only Peter), son of Johannes and Anna Barbara (Friedrich) Reitz, of Rohrig (now Bieber Luth. Church) Gelnhausen, born Dec. 3, 1690, baptized the same day, the sponsor being Peter Freund, son of Hans Freund (a smith or tailor). Married Jan. 4, 1715 Magdalena Weygand, born on the day of Simonis and Judae, 1687, daughter of Niclas Weygand, of Lohrhaupten, baptized on the same day, the sponsor being Magdalena, housewife of Peter Kesler. Johannes Peter Reitz died and was buried Dec. 2, 1732, aged 41 years. His wife Magdalena (Weygand) Reitz died and was buried A.D. 1740, aged 53 years. They lived at Lohrhaupten and were the parents of Johan George Henrich Reitz.

THE REITZ FAMILY HISTORY AND RECORD BOOK compiled by the Rev. J. J. Reitz -1930-

Sources

  1. Church book Lohrhaupten, Kurhessen-Waldeck: Landeskirchliches Archiv Kassel > Gelnhausen > Lohrhaupten > Trauungen, Beerdigungen 1700-1831 Archion image 1031
  2. Church book Lohrhaupten, Kurhessen-Waldeck: Landeskirchliches Archiv Kassel > Gelnhausen > Lohrhaupten > Trauungen, Beerdigungen 1700-1831 Archion image 1086
  • Reitz-225 was created by Larry Smith through the import of smith.ged on Oct 15, 2015.
  • Profile created by Kim Armstrong through the import of Ritts Family Tree_2017-12-24.ged on Dec 24, 2017.




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What Rev. J. J. Reitz wrote in 1930 is 'well-known', but as of early 2021 it is known to be wrong.. Friedrich DID have a brother George b. 1726, but he is not the George who married Anna Martha nor did he emigrate in 1751.

Two convincing proofs: 1) George of Lohrhaupten, brother of Friedrich, married Catherine Krug at Lohrhaupten in 1755, and died there in 1775. Never in America. He is positively identified by his stated birth location and father's name.

2 10 km away, at the conjoining villages of Bieber, Büchelbach, and Röhrig, Johan Georg Heinrich Reitz baptism and marriage records are found, he born 1713 at Büchelbach to Henrich and Veronica (possibly Sophronica), (surname unknown) Reitz. He, uniquely identified by his father's information, married Anna Martha Köller in the same Bieber parish in 1744. In Himmels Church [Northumberland Co., PA] records, Anna Martha, is the only given name used for George's wife. Hessian archives at Marburg, Germany have record of them (and 2 daughters) being given permission to emigrate to Pennsylvania in March 1751. They arrived at Philadelphia in September 1751. They are our immigrant ancestors, not Friedrich's brother.

Images of original records are on Archion.de. Johan George our American immigrant's baptism record which names his parents is found on Archion.de; record from Kurhessen-Waldeck: Landeskirchliches Archiv Kassel > Gelnhausen > Bieber > KB 1709-1744, Bild 2028

His marriage record is found at Kurhessen-Waldeck: Landeskirchliches Archiv Kassel > Gelnhausen > Bieber > KB 1709-1744, Bild 2116.

His emigration record is at "Reitz, Johann Henrich, Büchelbach, 1751", in: Hessian emigrants <https://www.lagis-hessen.de/de/purl/resolve/subject/ha/id/1249> (as of December 1, 2019)

posted by Paul Reitz
edited by Paul Reitz
Thanks for the reference; more work.

What might be the best way to find out [if possible, on WikiTree] whether screen shots taken from Archion's church records are in the public domain? Didn't readily find any info there.

Possibly, the addition of the English translation of the info onto the image might confer some copyright privilege that would allow it?

And Jillaine, it's not just WikiTree... When I read Judy Russell's imperatives to "read all terms and conditions i.e., follow the rules", of every computer, computer software, or visit any of the many web sites one might like to use — before using them, I get a difficult impression that she's out to convince me (and others) to quit genealogy.

I have better ways to spend my final years.  :)

BTW, have a look at her recent blog post, which is one reason I took another look. https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2021/08/04/one-big-change-at-ancestry/

posted by Paul Reitz
Even if someone had posted Archion's terms of use on WikiTree, it might not be the most current version, so you'd really need to turn to Archion to find out what you can do with content from their site. Sorry.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Jillain, I wrote to Archion Support and received this positive reply regarding posting record photos:

Re: [Ticket#2021091000000087] usage restrictions on downloaded images Mon, 20 Sep 2021

Hallo Paul Reitz,

thank you for your message. Of course, you may use images from Archion for your publication. Please indicate Archion as the source. Under the following link you will find our citation hints: https://www.archion.de/index.php?id=754&L=0

If you still have any questions, please contact us again. The Archion team is happy to assist you.

Kind regards Archion Team

Mit freundlichen Grüßen Ihr Archion Team

Kirchenbuchportal GmbH Balinger Str. 33/1 70567 Stuttgart [email address removed]

Eingetragen unter HRB 746037 beim Amtsgericht Stuttgart Geschäftsführer: Harald Müller-Baur Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: Dr. Bettina Wischhöfer Sitz: Stuttgart

10.09.2021 22:10 - Paul Reitz schrieb:

Sir,

I am seeking to determine whether I am permitted to display a small portion of Archion documents I downloaded, pertaining to my ancestor's baptism and marriage.

Reading Terms and Conditions, I see these statements, but which seem to me to be contradictory.

5. User’s General Obligations 5.1. The User undertakes: c) not to copy, modify or otherwise use the content and databases supplied by the Provider and not to make them publicly accessible other than by means of the functions offered by Archion, unless the Provider has granted the User the rights of use required for doing so.

and 9. Retrieval and Downloading of Digital Content

9.3.5. Individual items of Digital Content which the User downloads with the help of the integrated download function are not subject to any usage restrictions imposed by the Provider.

I plan to superimpose on the images translation to English.

Can you please clarify?

posted by Paul Reitz
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