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Mary (Aldis) Fisher (abt. 1621 - 1653)

Mary Fisher formerly Aldis
Born about in Englandmap
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Wife of — married 15 Mar 1643 in Dedham, Suffolk, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
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Died at about age 31 in Dedham, Suffolk, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
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Biography

Mary (Aldis) Fisher immigrated to New England as a child during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640).

Marie Aldus, daughter of Nathan Aldus and Mary (___) was baptized on October 18, 1623 at Fressingfield, Suffolk, England. The family came to New England by 1639, settling at Dedham, Massachusetts. [1]

She married Joshua Fisher on March 15, 1643, at Dedham, Massachusetts Bay Colony.[1][2]

Mary died at Dedham on September 3, 1653.[3][1]

Children born Dedham:

  1. Mary, b. Mar 23, 1643/4 m. Thomas Clapp
  2. Joshua, b. Oct 20, 1645 d. Jan 14, 1646
  3. Hannah, b. Feb 14, 1647 d. Sep 4, 1648
  4. Abigail, b. Feb 29, 1649 m. John Houlton
  5. Joshua, b. Jan 9, 1651 m. Esther Wiswell
  6. John, b. Feb 18, 1652 m. Hannah Adams
  7. Hannah, b. Jan 19, 1653 m. William? Burroughs.


Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Hyde, Myrtle Stevens. Corrected Ancestry for Nathan Aldus of Early Dedham, Massachusetts in: New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Volume 150, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts, 1996, p. 487-9 (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2018.)
  2. Dedham (Mass.), Don Gleason Hill. Births, Marriages & Deaths ... in the Town of Dedham, Massachusetts, Volumes 1 & 2. Dedham Transcript Press., 1886. [https://archive.org/details/earlyrecordsded01masgoog/page/n138/mode/1up Vol. 1:126
    "1643 Joshua Fisher & Mary Aldis, were married the 15th of the 1 mo."
  3. Hill, Dedham Records page 128.
  • Hyde, Myrtle Stevens & Plummer, John. The English Ancestry of New England Settlers Joshua and Anthony Fisher, The New England Historical & Genealogical Register (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., 1997) Vol. 151, Page 181.
  • Whitin, Frederick H., "The Aldis Family in America," Dedham Historical Register Vol. 14 (1903), pages 18-24.




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This person immigrated to New England between 1621-1640 as a Minor Child (under age 21 at time of immigration) of a Puritan Great Migration immigrant who is profiled in Robert Charles Anderson's Great Migration Directory (or is otherwise accepted by the Puritan Great Migration (PGM) Project).

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posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Is it possible that the Dedham VR has already corrected the year to new style dating? If the marriage occurred in March 1643/4, then it seems unlikely that the first daughter Mary was also born in that same month. Her profile indicates her birth was in Dedham on 23 March 1643/4 (source not clear, but appears also to be Dedham VR - I have not tracked down the children's baptismal records to confirm this.)
posted by Scott McClain
From my experience with Don Gleason Hills' transcriptions, he did them verbatim. The way that record reads (see the linked volume I added) their marriage most likely occurred in March of 1643, not 1644. The daughter Mary's birth is shown under 1644: https://archive.org/details/earlyrecordsded01masgoog/page/n14/mode/1up?q=164
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Here is the original (copied actually in the late 1600s) birth record of their daughter Mary:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-9979-RXH7?i=8&cc=2061550&cat=232933
Her birth is also recorded in the Boston records here:
https://www.americanancestors.org/DB522/i/21072/347/1427116171
Mary Aldis and Joshua Fisher's marriage (original/copy from late 1600s) can be seen here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8979-R65Z?i=280&cc=2061550&cat=232933
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
edited by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
You are amazing. It looks like the daughter Mary's birth date is actually 23 March 1644/5, agree? That bumps up tightly against the reported next child Joshua, but he died as an infant, so was possibly premature? Again, I am just trusting the profile and have not tried to find his baptismal or death record.
posted by Scott McClain
I think the year was 1644. If it was the 23rd of the 1st month of 1644, that would be March 23, 1644.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
The way I read these is that she was born in the first month (March) of 1644. Not 1645. As an example, see the Dedham published VRs here. When you see '1644 look back to the prior entries, being "12th month" (or February of 1644).

Joshua was born 1645, 30th of the 8th month, or October 30 1645. Record is here. This was a fertile family.

Hanna was born 1646, 14th of the 12th mo. (14 Feb 1647) Her record is on the same page as Joshua's.

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Yes, I do see that. What was confusing to me is that if it's correct that the marriage occurred on 15 Mar 1643/4, this means that the first child was born 8 days after they married. Which is, of course, possible.
posted by Scott McClain
No, Scott, I read their date of marriage as 15 March 1643. Original record is here. There's no 'double dating' in the records, and it reads as the 1st month of 1643, so March 1643.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
edited by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
So now that brings us full circle, doesn't it? The string began based on Steve Gilson's post below that the marriage record should be read as 15 Mar 1643/4, i.e., 1644 in new style dating. I may just be completely confused now, but are we saying that the marriage occurred in March 1643, and the first child was born in March 1644 (all new style)?
posted by Scott McClain
edited by Scott McClain
Yes. I'm afraid that Steve's post is incorrect in stating 1643/4.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Just to add my two cents... looking at the original records which are recorded old style...

I agree that Joshua Fisher and Mary Aldis were married 15 March 1642/3

and their first child Mary was born on 23 March 1643/4

posted by Joe Cochoit
edited by Joe Cochoit
And just for fun, should we mention that the new year began on March 25?
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
According to the Dedham VR's, page 126, their Marriage was on "1643 15th of the 1 mo." which would be 15 mar 1643-4 (NS)
posted by Steve Gilson

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