How to link to an Ancestry record?

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Hi,

I'm making a push to start using "proper" citations; can someone help me please understand best practices for linking to items on Ancestry? I'm really not understanding the instructions at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Links_to_Ancestry. The examples there do not seem to match what I see on Ancestry.

For example, how would I cite to this, which is 1) text in a database describing a record of a divorce; and 2) a link to an image in the database that shows the page from which the text was extracted:

1:

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8837/images/FLDIV_0133-0086?pId=1025250

2:

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1025250:8837?ssrc=pt&tid=116857661&pid=110166556764

in Policy and Style by Lori Lockhart G2G5 (5.3k points)
retagged by Ellen Smith

2 Answers

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I now use the WikiTree Sourcer extension (by Rob Pavey) to construct all my source citations from Ancestry. It will handle both of your examples. Rob even includes the coding for the edit page. All you have to do is paste the created citation. They would look like this in code, but the formatting code would not appear on the finished page.

1. * '''1962 > C''': "Florida, U.S., Divorce Index, 1927-2001"<br/>1962 > C > image 28 of 32<br/>{{Ancestry Sharing|8899362|7b22746f6b656e223a2259714a5961465972434f534f452f2b33324359774f71783556777359383667665a78313671424c6e5444593d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d}} - Ancestry {{Ancestry Image|8837|FLDIV_0133-0086}} (accessed 7 January 2024)<br/>Betty O Crispino.

2. * '''Divorce''': "Florida, U.S., Divorce Index, 1927-2001"<br/>Original data: Florida Department of Health. Florida Divorce Index, 1927-2001. Jacksonville, FL, USA: Florida Department of Health; Certificate Number: 281<br/>{{Ancestry Sharing|8899362|7b22746f6b656e223a2259714a5961465972434f534f452f2b33324359774f71783556777359383667665a78313671424c6e5444593d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d}} - {{Ancestry Record|8837|1025250}} (accessed 7 January 2024)<br/>Betty O Crispino divorce in Jan 1962 in Dade, Florida, USA.

by Nelda Spires G2G6 Pilot (569k points)

I recently re-did this profile. It has some source citations of Ancestry records on it. All the source citations from there and FamilySearch were constructed with the WikiTree Sourcer extension. The only thing I do to customize to my liking is to delete the bolded title of the source. Many people leave that, though, because they like it.

You can change Sourcer's bolded titles in its options, so that they appear as ordinary text.

Or you can omit them entirely. It is the first option under Citations -> General : "Add a label at the start of each reference ". It can be set to "None"

Rob, I use the titles to guide me on where they should be placed within the biography, then delete them, so I don't find them useless and don't want to turn off the option, but thanks for letting Lori know about that possibility.
Thank you!
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To answer your specific questions:

  1. "text in a database describing a record" might be an index, a transcription or an abstract. On Ancestry, the database name is the equivalent of a microfilm #. Using that name as the main piece of information makes it sound like it's an index or transcription that Ancestry created. In fact, I think it's an index that the State of Florida made and you were looking at a scanned or microfilmed image of a printed copy of that index. Not a database at all. I'd want to see the actual name of the source and the type of information (index, transcription, etc.) and who created the one you looked at (State of Florida).
  2. This is the link that I'd include in the full citation, not the one that takes you to a summary page that is essentially Ancestry's index of an index. And I'd only use information from this page. Take people directly to the item you were looking at if possible. All too often indexing introduces errors. Get as close to the original source as possible.

As for writing citations, WikiTree Sourcer will copy over Ancestry's pre-written citations for you and many people are quite happy with that.

I prefer to write my own. (If you're not interested in my peeves about badly written citations, feel free to quit reading now...laugh) Ancestry's citations contain a lot of irrelevant information and often leave out some or all of the most important information. If a citation is about a book, then a library's street address or that library's catalog number & shelving location for the book are not really all that important if I want to find it at my library. What I need is the title, author, edition and page number. 

To write a really good citation, ask yourself "What would I tell someone I was looking at and where would I tell them to find a copy 30 years from now when Ancestry doesn't exist?" The link to the version you were looking at is an added common courtesy for when you find things online.

A good citation to a document will tell others:

  • who the record is about, the event and the associated date and place of the event
  • when, where and who created the original record
  • the larger work or collection that the record is contained in and where it is in that work
  • where to find the record such as a link to the version you saw, if it's online, and the holder or repository of the originals
A citation like "Ancestry.com. Georgia, Marriage Records From Select Counties, 1828-1978 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2019" tells me none of that even if it had a more specific link. What kind of marriage records? Bonds? Licenses? Certificates? A register? What if the collection includes more than one kind of these records for the same couple? How do I know which one someone was looking at? Which county was the record from? Did the record contain a more specific place? What year? There was no online database in 1828, so where is the actual record? Loose files? Volume 2? Page number? Or is it an index or transcription? You can see where this is headed.

Ancestry writes these citations as if they created and hold the records. Their address and the name they give their own database have nothing to do with the record (though a film # or database name can be convenient to help find it when links go bad).

Here's how I'd write the citation:

Divorce of Betty O. Crispino and ______ ____, Certificate Number 281, January 1962, Dade County, Florida, Florida Divorce Index, Volume #, page #, Florida Department of Health, Jacksonville, Florida, Film/DGS# or name, image 28 of 32, <link to the image that isn't hidden>, accessed 7 January 2024.
by Regan Conley G2G6 Mach 4 (48.3k points)

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