Nathaniel
Thayer
Born about in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England
[uncertain]
[uncertain]Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of
Abigail (Harvey) Thayer
— married
1665 in Taunton, Plymouth Colony [uncertain]
Descendants [uncertain] 
Father of
Abigail (Thayer) Briggs, Joanna (Thayer) Crossman, Nathaniel Thayer Jr, Mary (Thayer) Burt, Elizabeth (Thayer) Bobet, William Thayer, Deborah (Thayer) Codding, Jonathan Thayer and Isaac Thayer
Died after
after about age 76
in Taunton, Bristol, Massachusetts [uncertain]
[uncertain]
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Biography
Uncertain Origins
Nathaniel's origins are not definitively known. He is often confused with Nathaniel Thayer, son of Richard of Braintree. As discussed in "Nathaniel Thayer Family" in The Snow-Estes ancestry':'[1]
- That he was not the son of Richard and Dorothy (Mortimore) Thayer, of Braintree, has been clearly proven. His identity is unknown. He was one of the fifty-two grantees named in the deed from Gov. Prince and others for the 'North Purchase' of Taunton, June 6, 1668; also named one of the grantees of the Bradford deed of 1689."
According to the Thayer Families Association, he is the same Nathaniel christened in Thornbury, Gloucester, England on 10 May 1640. This would make him the son of William Thayer and Mary Kellayway, and the nephew of Richard Thayer of Braintree. He probably came from England and settled in Taunton around 1660. Initial DNA Testing suggests there is a genetic connection between the Thayers of Taunton and Thayers of Braintree.[2]
Marriage
Nathaniel married Abigail Harvey by 1665.[3][4]
Children
Birth records do not exist for all of the children.
- Nathaniel, Jr.[5] m Rebecca Briggs[1][6]
- Joanna b 13 Dec 1665 m 7 Jan 1689/90 John son of Robert and Sarah (Kingsbury) Crossman (b 1654)[1][6][7]
- Mary[1] (probably the Mary Thayer that m James Burt 2 Sep 1685).[6][8]
- Abigail m 24 Oct 1689 Thomas Briggs[1][6][9]
- Elizabeth[1][6] m 22 Dec 1698 Edward Bobet[10]
- William m 29 May 1701 Sara Babbitt/Bobet[1][6]
- Isaac[6][11]
- Deborah m. James Codding[6][12]
- Jonathan[6][11][13]
Death
Nathaniel likely died in Taunton. No death record or probate record has been located. Nathaniel is mentioned in an agreement dated 19 November 1691 regarding the probate of his father-in-law.[14] Nathaniel also signed a deed giving land to his son Nathaniel 4 April 1716.[5]
There are many dates associated with Nathaniel's death without supporting evidence. Many of them seem to be conflations with other Nathaniel Thayers.
- 1693 Taunton, Bristol, Massachusetts - There is no death record in Taunton VR and 1693 is the date of death for Nathaniel Thayer of Braintree
- "Nathaniel" died in Braintree, Massachusetts, on 28 March 1728[15] refers to Nathaniel Thayer, son of Richard Thayer and Hannah Pray.
- 1707 in Taunton (No death record found in Taunton VRs)
- After Nov 1707 (no explanation)
Research Notes
- A resource not available on the internet, but is available in the NEHGS Library might clarify this line: Muno, Patricia. Descendants of Nathaniel Thayer, Immigrant to America 1660. "This volume consists of the genealogical and biographical information of the Immigrant Nathaniel Thayer and his wife, Abigail HARVEY and 2148 of their descendants. Nathaniel Thayer immigrated in 1660 and settled in Taunton, Bristol County, Massachusetts."
- Sources from Torrey: {Reg. 17:35; MD 18:56; Harvey 1:37; Babbitt 26; Gen. Adv. 4:60-1; Snow-Estes 2:296, 301}
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 Snow, N. Emma. (1939). The Snow-Estes ancestry. Hillburn, N.Y.: N. E. Snow. pages 296-8.
- ↑ Thayer DNA Project Results reviewed 11.6.18. Kit#365703 from pedigree William, Nathaniel, Jonathan, Mephibosheth, Levi. Note that Mephibosoheth's parentage is not proven.
- ↑ Torrey, Clarence A. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004. p. 734. available in database: U.S. New England Marriages before 1700. Provo, Utah, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc., 2012. "THAYER, Nathaniel & Abigail [HARVEY] (1640-1691), dau Wm.; 1660?, b 1665; Taunton"
- ↑ Harvey, Oscar Jewell. 1899. The Harvey book: giving the genealogies of certain branches of the American families of Harvey, Nesbitt, Dixon and Jameson, and notes on many other families, together with numerous biographical sketches. Pages 37-38. Online through Cincinnati Library. Text: "Prior to 1668 [Abigail Harvey] was married to Nathaniel Thayer of Taunton."
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 Bristol Deeds, Vol 12, Page 278. Deed Dated 4 April 1716, Recorded 1 Nov 1718. "I Nathaniel Grandsenior of Taunton...unto my son Nathaniel Senr." View on FamilySearch
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 6.6 6.7 6.8 Ravenscroft, Ruth Thayer. 1947. The family of Nathaniel Thayer of Taunton, Mass. (1660-1947). Colorado Springs, Colo: R.T. Ravenscroft. Pages 1-2. Available online through familysearch.org.
- ↑ "Marriages, Births and Deaths at Taunton, Mass. (From the Proprietors' Records, communicated by Edgar H. Reed, Esq of Taunton)." in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, Vol 17 (1863), Page 35. Text: "Johana dr. of Nathaniel Thayer borne 13 Dec., 1665." View on Archive.org or NEHGS Subscription Link.
- ↑ "James Burt of Taunton, Massachusetts," in The American Genealogist, 75:113
- ↑ Hannibal, Edna Anne, and Claude W. Barlow. "Richard, William, and Hugh, Sons of John Briggs of Taunton, Massachusetts." The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Vol 125 (1971), pages 88-90. Text: "Nathaniel "Thare", Sr. of Taunton, granted to son-in-law Thomas Briggs of Taunton, and wife Abigail in 1708, ack. 1717 ([Bristol County Deeds], 48: 548)."
- ↑ Browne, William Bradford The Babbitt Family History, 1643-1900 (Browne, Taunton, Massachusetts, 1912). Page 26. "Edward Bobet....Married (2nd) Elizabeth Thayer Dec. 22, 1698, Elizabeth Thayer, daughter of Nathaniel and Abigail (Harvey) Thayer."
- ↑ 11.0 11.1 "Thayer DNA Project" on Thayer Families Association website.
- ↑ Bristol County, Massachusetts Deeds, Vol 21, Page 523. Dated 12 Feb 1715/16, Recorded March 26, 1716."I John Crossman of Taunton....in consideration for the love and good affection I have unto my sister in law Deberow Coddin now of Taunton...wife of James Coddin." Also mentions Nathaniel Thayer Senior and Jonathan Thayer. View on FamilySearch also View on Familysearch (p 529)
- ↑ Bristol County, Massachusetts Deeds. Vol 16, page 161. Date 16 March 1714/5, Recorded May 25, 1725. "Nathaniel Thare Grandsenior, in consideration of that love and affection I bear to my son Jonathan Thare of Taunton." View on FamilySearch
- ↑ "Abstracts from the First Book of Bristol County Probate Records" in Greenlaw, Lucy H. The Genealogical Advertiser: A Quarterly Magazine of Family History. Cambridge, Mass: Lucy H. Greenlaw. Vol 4 (1901), Pages 61.
- ↑ Vital Records of Braintree, Massachusetts to 1850, p. 728 (available on Ancestry.com).
See also:
- Geni family Tree Nathaniel Thayer
- Genealogy.com Forum "Re: Nathaniel Thayer-1639-which wife?????"
- Find A Grave: Memorial #65470799 Note: The FindAGrave memorial is unsourced, and as of 7.20.20 includes the erroneous death date noted in the Death section, and also presumes that Nathaniel Thayer of Taunton is the same as Nathaniel Tayer of Thornbury (which is possible but not proven). Suggested edit has been submitted to FaG. Cole-12288 00:18, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Acknowledgements
- Thayer-2971 was created by Margie Bernard through the import of The Burton _ Marjorie Tollas B.ged on Nov 1, 2014.
See also: Source: Geni World Family Tree MyHeritage.com [online database], My Heritage Ltd. https://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-40000/geni-world-family-tree
Record: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-40000-56661949/nathaniel-thayer-in-geni-world-family-tree Nathaniel Thayer
Citation: Nathaniel Thayer Birth: May 10 1640 - Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England Death: Probably Taunton, Bristol County, Province of Massachusetts Father: William Thayer Mother: Mary Thayer (born Kellaway) Wife: Abigail Thayer (born Harvey) Children: Mary Burt (born Thayer), of Taunton, Joanna Crossman (born Thayer), Abigail Briggs (born Thayer), Jonathan Thayer, Jonathan Thayer, Elizabeth Bobet (born Thayer), William Thayer, Isaac Thayer, Nathaniel Thayer, Jr. Siblings: Jonathan Thayer, Marie (born Thayer), I, died in infancy, Jonathan Thayer, II, died in infancy, John Thayer, Marie (born Thayer), II, Elizabeth Thayer, Jonathan Thayer, III, Gabriel Thayer
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Nathaniel:
It may be possible to confirm family relationships. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Nathaniel:
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~0.39%
John Gibson Crossman
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23andMe, GEDmatch Au859998 [compare]
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AncestryDNA, GEDmatch Au8599989 [compare]
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- Evidence for parents of Nathaniel Thayer, b. 1640, wife of Abigail Harvey Feb 11, 2019.
- Can we project protect Nathaniel Thayer? Feb 10, 2019.
- PGM: Separating two conflated Nathaniel Thayers Jan 2, 2018.
Rejected matches › Nathaniel Thayer (1795-) › Nathaniel Thayer (1658-1728) › Nathaniel Thayer (abt.1639-1693)
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Categories: Massachusetts Project-Managed | Estimated Birth Date
For my research, I will use FaG as a guide to look for relations, but will only post it if I can find corroborating sources to confirm the information., altho some people have put obits and other information with sources on FaG Memorials and that info is usually very accurate.
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Event Type: Burial Age (Estimated): 88 Photograph Included: N Birth Date: 10 May 1640 Death Date: 28 Mar 1728 Note: Contains Biography Affiliate Record Identifier: 65470799 Affiliate Image Identifier: 65470799
Citing this Record "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV23-6QCC : 18 June 2020), Nathaniel Thayer, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID 65470799, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com. All the records I have read say William Tayer and Mary Kellaway are Nathaniel Thayer’s parents. I am unable to record this information.
The date on findagrave is incorrect. If you read the bio here under death it says: “ "Nathaniel" died in Braintree, Massachusetts, on 28 March 1728[15] refers to Nathaniel Thayer, son of Richard Thayer and Hannah Pray.”
The birth date on FindAGRave is discussed in the Uncertain origins section in the bio.
In general, it’s helpful to read the WikiTree bio first. And for Project Protected Profiles discuss and major changes **before** making edits to the profile.
Ellen, Thank you! I found the source you cited. Very interesting!
As noted earlier in the comments, the children need better sourcing. I've gone through and added links directly to the sources given in Torrey's NE Marriages. Joanna's birth is in the proprietor's records, and Nathaniel & Jonathan proven in deeds. The others Ravenscroft lists as "probable."
I note that she says of him that he is "probably he who was baptized 10 May 1640 in Thornbury, England." She says that he first appears in Taunton, Massachusetts, in 1660, probably as a recent immigrant, and presumed to be age 20.
The Snow-Estes Genealogy that's cited in this profile is a reasonably reliable source that explains where its information came from.
The Briggs genealogy article that I cited in Abigail's profile is a pretty solid source for the members of this family who married people named Briggs.
Ruth Ravenscroft's genealogy (also cited in this profile) for the family of Nathaniel Thayer is mentioned favorably in that Briggs genealogy, so it's likely to be a solid work. Unfortunately, I get an error message when I try to access the link this evening, so I've not looked at it.
I edited the biography for daughter Abigail to include some sourced information about her -- mostly as an illustration of what might exist, and where it might be found. One of those sources confidently identified her parents. One source for the identification is a document (probably a deed) in which Nathaniel Thayer identified Thomas Briggs as his son-in-law and also referred to Thomas' wife Abigail.
This profile has too much history of parents being added and removed, merges being proposed and rejected, etc. G2G is a better venue than profile messages for working these things out....