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John Finney Sr. (abt. 1604 - aft. 1683)

John Finney Sr. aka Phinney
Born about in Lenton, Nottinghamshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 22 Nov 1636 in Nottinghamshire, Englandmap
Husband of — married 9 Jul 1650 in Barnstable, Massachusettsmap
Husband of — married 26 Jun 1654 in Barnstable, Plymouthmap
Descendants descendants
Died after after about age 78 in Bristol, Plymouth Colonymap
Profile last modified | Created 28 Jan 2011
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Biography

John Finney is referred to as "John the Pilgrim" in this source.[1]

"John Finney, his brother Robert, and two sisters, Katherine and Anne first appeared in Plymouth Colony in the 1630's, along with their aged mother whose name is unknown.[2] His mother was referred to only as "Mother Finney", and she died Apr 22, 1650 at Plymouth, older than 80 years of age.[3]

John lived in Plymouth and Barnstable. He was married three times. It is likely they were married before arrival in New England.[2] John Phiny married Chistianna Patten 22 November 1636[4] in Lenton, Nottinghamshire [5] His first wife, Christian, died in Plymouth on September 9, 1649.

John married second Abigail (Bishop) Coggin, widow of Henry. They married July 9, 1650 at Barnstable, Massachusetts.[6][1][7]

John married third Elizabeth Bayley (sic) June 26, 1654, at Barnstable.[8]

John's death and probate information has not been found. The last mention of him was a deed he signed Feb 2, 1682/3 in which he disposed of his house and land in Bristol to son, Jonathan.[2]

The Finney family was most likely from the parish of Lenton, Nottinghamshire, where a family matching their description in all aspects is found.[2]

Baptism

Baptism: Date: 15 MAR 1603/04
Place: Lenton, Nottinghamshire, England[9]


Research Notes

According to NEHGR 148:323: he was living at Bristol, MA (now in RI) as late as 7 Feb 1682/3, when he deeded his house and lands there to his son Jonathan (see Bristol Co. Deeds, 4:25).

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Finney, James Albert The name and family of Finney and a genealogical record of his direct line down to 1952, published 1952. Reference pages 5, 15.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 Stott, Clifford L. "The Finney Family of Lenton, Nottinghamshire and Plymouth, Massachusetts" The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2013.) Reference Volume 148, page 315, 325+. Subscription required.
  3. Finney, Howard Finney-Phinney families in America : descendants of John Finney of Plymouth and Barnstable, Mass., and Bristol, R.I., of Samuel Finney of Philadelphia, Pa., and of Robert Finney of New London, Pa. / from the notebooks of Howard Finney, Sr., published 1957. Reference pages 1+
  4. Sherman, Robert M. Mayflower Families Through 5 Generations, James Chilton, Richard More, Thomas Rogers, Vol. 2 Publication: General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Plymouth, MA, 1978 p. 162
  5. Phillimore Marriage Registers, 1531-1913, Parish of Lenton, at FindMyPast.co.uk
  6. Torrey, Clarence Almon New England Marriages Prior to 1700, published 1985. Reference page 166
  7. Freeman, Frederick The History of Cape Cod: The Annals of Barnstable County and of Its Several Towns, Including the District of Mashpee, Volume 2, published 1862. Reference page 260
  8. Massachusetts: Vital Records, 1621-1850 (Online Database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2016). Reference Barnstable Volume 1, page 694
  9. "The Finney Family of Lenton, Nottinghamshire and Plymouth, Massachusetts." The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2018), https://www.americanancestors.org/DB202/i/11668/318/23527036 (citing original baptismal record in the Lenton, Nottinghamshire, register)
See also:
  • Massachusetts Marriages, 1695-1910, database, FamilySearch, John Phinny and Abigail Coggin, 10 Jun 1650; citing reference ; FHL microfilm 947,061.
  • Massachusetts Marriages, 1695-1910, database, FamilySearch, John Phinny and Elizabeth Bayly, 26 Jun 1654; citing reference ; FHL microfilm 947,061.
  • Finney-Phinney Families in America Author: Howard Phinney Publication: Richmond: William Byrd Press, 1957
  • About the Finney Family Periodical: NEHGR Volume: 148 Date: 1994
  • Morse, William Inglis, Genealogiae; or, Data concerning the families of Morse, Chipman, Phinney, Ensign and Whiting, published 1925. Reference pages 64-68
  • Page 377: "John Phinny & Abigail Coggin Wid Married 10 June 1650 & his wife Abigail buried 6 of May 1653"




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Profile is in need of a little love.

(1) A "NOTE" reading There is no reference to John & wife Christiana (Christian) having a daughter, only 2 sons, marked citation needed," was recently deleted from the profile.

(2) I am removing from the profile two items from the section "Notes" (will rename Research Notes), Both passages seem lengthy extractions referenced as (a) "From: Finney - Phinney Families in America DESCENDANTS OF JOHN FINNEY OF PLYMOUTH AND BARNSTABLE, MASS., AND BRISTOL, R. I." and (b) "NEHGR 148:324-25 (largely drawn from Shurtleff):"

posted by GeneJ X
This record may support the daughter Margaret and impact his date of arrival.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQR2-ZD4

posted by Mike Dobson
Phinney-159 and Finney-136 appear to represent the same person because: I created Phinney-159 as the father of Hannah (Phinney / Finney) Morton (Phinney-344) with very little information. I now see that Finney-136 is the correct father, so Phinney-159 should go away.
posted by Rob Stafford Jr
Incorrect Margaret Finney removed as daughter, replaced with new Margaret Finney for whom there is no information beyond her baptism in 1637.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Probably a very good idea, and possibly correct the bio, indicating the two children, Margaret and John, as children of Christian.
posted by Chris Hoyt
Because the daughter Margaret Finney is conflated (she has a marriage and children far too young, with no quality sources), I propose we create another Margaret Finney as the daughter of John and Christian, and remove the parents from Finney-134 (disputed origins section already in place on Finney-134 explaining disputed parentage). The Margaret Finney, daughter is the one with the birth/baptism in 1637.

(I have changed the birthdate of the one who married Taylor to about 1630, aligned with a 1649 marriage and 3 immediate children. The profile as originally created was conflated with a birth/baptism date of 1637 (synonymous with John and Christian's daughter), along with a death in Maryland in 1675 (synonymous with Margaret who married Taylor).

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posted by S (Hill) Willson
The same article in NEHGR: 148: shows John and Christian Patten having daughter Margaret bapt. in England , no further record (as noted below) and one son John (not 2 sons).

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posted by Chris Hoyt
The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 148:325 has Margaret as their child, with a baptism date of July 20, 1637. It appears that she is not the Margaret who married John Taylor, based on her baptism date.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
:NOTE: There is no reference on any of the BOOKS to John & wife Christiana (Christian) having a daughter, only 2 sons. [citation needed] Margaret Finney-134
posted by Carole Taylor
It is very plausible that John and his siblings emigrated aboard the Diligent in 1938. Katherine (Finney) Fallowell's son married Martha Beal and Robert Finney married Phebe Ripley. Both the Beals and the Ripleys were from Norfolk, emigrated aboard the Diligent, and settled in Hingham, Mass. The most likely way that the Finneys would have become close to the Beals and the Ripleys is if they were all aboard the Diligent.
posted by Chase Ashley
added 3rd spouse's profile link
posted by S (Hill) Willson
I removed Protesia Holdich from the "mother" slot on this profile. That's a case of mistaken identity. She married John Pinney, not Robert Finney, and she was in Devon, England, in 1639 (not in Massachusetts).
posted by Ellen Smith

Rejected matches › John Phinney (1762-1844)

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