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Suzanne (Barbot) Barbeau dite Poitevin (1723 - 1798)

Suzanne Barbeau dite Poitevin formerly Barbot
Born in St-François de Sales de l'île Jésus, Québecmap
Ancestors ancestors
Daughter of and
Sister of , and [half]
Wife of — married 26 Jul 1745 in Montréal, Île de Montréal, Québecmap
Descendants descendants
Mother of , , , and
Died at age 74 in Montréal, Province de Québecmap
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Biography

This profile is part of the Barbeau Name Study.
Suzanne (Barbot) Barbeau dite Poitevin has French origins.
Drapeau identifiant les profils du Canada, Nouvelle-France
Suzanne (Barbot) Barbeau dite Poitevin a vécu
au Canada, Nouvelle-France.


Suzanne Barbeau dite Poitevin


  • Poitevin is an ancestral French family name that in this case was used as a French dit name. This Nouvelle France Barbeau dit Poitevin family migrated from the Poitou, France region and members of that family used dit Poitevin probably to represent both the ancient Poitevin and Barbeau family lines from that region.Baraboo-1 22:34, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
  • Surname spelling variants in the Parish records of Nouvelle France include: Barbeau, Barbeu, Barbau, Barbot, Barbet (These variants sound alike pronounced in French. )
  • First name variants include: Suzanne, Susanne
  • Baptisée : Susanne Barbot (Barbeau) est née et a été baptisée le 11 novembre 1723 à Saint-François-de-Sales de l'Île Jésus; elle est la fille de Michel Barbot et de Suzanne Chartrand. [1]
  • Death/Burial : Suzanne Barbeau, veuve de Blaize Le Page et âgée de 78 ans, est décédée le 3 et a été inhumée le 4 août 1798 à Montréal.[2]Her name is listed as Suzanne Barbeau. [3]

Parents

  • Michel Barbot [Barbeau] dit Potvin (Poitevin)
  • Suzanne Chartran

Siblings

  • Marie Barbeau dite Potvin Married 13 January 1755, St-Vincent-de-Paul de l'Ile-Jésus, Laval, QC, to Joseph Perrin-Gareau

Spouse:

  • Balise Lepage (Parents : M Blaise Lepage & F Marie Loup-Polonais)
  • Marriage: Le 26 juillet 1745, Blaise Lepage âgé de 27 ans fils de Blaise le page et de Marie Polonois, et Suzanne Barbau (Barbeau)âgée de 21 ans, fille de Michel Barbau (Barbeau) dit poitevin et de Suzanne Chartran, sont unis à Montréal.[4] The Parish record is very difficult to read. Her father's surname listed is indiscernible. [5]

Children:

  • François Lepage married 11 February 1782, La-Visitation-de-la-Bienheureuse-Vierge-Marie du Sault-au-Récollet, Montréal, QC, to Marie-Françoise Varry-Luneville . His mother is listed as Suzanne Barbeau.
  • Jean-Baptiste-Michel Lepage married 22 April 1776, St-Joseph de Carleton, Bonaventure, QC, to Marie-Rose Arseneau . She is listed as Suzanne Barbeau in her son's Parish marriage reference.[6]
  • Charles Antoine Lepage. March 11, 1752. She is listed as Suzanne Barbeau dite Poitevin in his Parieh baptism reference. [7]

Sources

  • In her child's Parish record she is listed as Suzanne Barbeau. Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968: Name: Susanne Barbeau; Gender: femme (Female); Spouse: Blaise Lepage; Child: Suzanne Lepage
  1. ↑ [(Source Citation: Institut Généalogique Drouin; Montreal, Quebec, Canada; Drouin Collection; Author: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Name: Suzanne Barbet [Suzanne Barbot][Barbeau} Gender: femme (Female) Event Type: Baptême (Baptism) Birth Date: 11 Nov Baptism Date: 11 Nov 1723 Baptism Place: Laval, Québec Place of Worship or Institution: St-François-de-Sales Father: Michel Barbet {Barbeau dit Boisdore] Mother: Suzanne Chartran)]
  2. ↑ Sépulture - FamilySearch
  3. ↑ [( Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968 Name: Suzanne Barbeau Event Type: Enterrement (Burial) Death Date: 1798 Burial Date: 1798 Burial Place: Montréal, Québec Place of Worship or Institution: Basilique Notre-Dame Source Citation : Institut Généalogique Drouin; Montreal, Quebec, Canada; Drouin Collection; Author: Gabriel Drouin, comp.)]
  4. ↑ Mariage - FamilySearch)]
  5. ↑ [( Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968 Name: Suzanne Barbau ? [Barbeau] Gender: femme (Female) Event Type: Mariage (Marriage) Marriage Date: 1740-1751 Marriage Place: Montréal, Québec Spouse: Blaise Lepage Source Citation: Institut Généalogique Drouin; Montreal, Quebec, Canada; Drouin Collection; Author: Gabriel Drouin, comp.)]
  6. ↑ [( Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968 Name: Jean Baptiste Michel Lepage Gender: homme (Male) Event Type: Mariage (Marriage) Marriage Date: 1773-1862 Marriage Place: Carleton, Québec Spouse: Marie Rose Arseneau Mother: Suzanne Barbeau Source Citation: Institut Généalogique Drouin; Montreal, Quebec, Canada; Drouin Collection; Author: Gabriel Drouin, comp.)]
  7. ↑ [( Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968 Name: Charles Antoine Lepage Event Type: Baptême (Baptism) Baptism Date: 1751-1754 Baptism Place: Montréal, Québec Place of Worship or Institution: Basilique Notre-Dame Mother: Suzanne Barbeau dite Poitevin. Source Citation: Institut Généalogique Drouin; Montreal, Quebec, Canada; Drouin Collection; Author: Gabriel Drouin, comp.)]

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[Living Calonnec]
I am not a specialist in this area but, as I see it Jerry, the dit name is sort of a nickname to differentiate one individual from another.

Soldiers were given dit names automatically by their superiors

You might want to read:

http://www.afgs.org/ditnames/index1.html#dit

http://www.lavoute.org/nomsdefamille/

posted by [Living Calonnec]
Baraboo-1 Stanley Baraboo
Hi Michele .. I like your ideas. I'm going to separate the three events you've communicated about in other profiles I work on. Good Idea ..

Yes, Its interesting that Barbot was written in the Catholic Baptisee record, Barbau in the Catholic marriage record and Barbeau in the Catholic death record all in the same parish. (lol)

Any ideas about French dit use ?

posted by Stanley Baraboo
[Living Calonnec]
Sorry Jerry if my message was not clear enough; the "Barbot" spelling applies to this family, not all Barbot, Barbeau, etc. in France or elsewhere.

Thank you for going along with my thoughts on Bio

posted by [Living Calonnec]
Baraboo-1 Stanley Baraboo
Hi Michèle Calonnec.

I need your help. I have researched the French dit use in France, Netherlands, England, French West Indies, French Louisiane and other French regions for many years. In France they were discontinued after the French Revolution.

I am always updating research and I'm thinking that dit use might generally be defined as nouns. Proper nouns, noun names, people, places and things. I've been using the word identifier but after collaborating and listening to Danielle's work with the Quebecois Project I'm thinking identifiers (which includes names) is too technical.

In your research what do you think a French dit is ? Thank you for help

P.S. I added this question on G2G for Danielle as well ..

posted by Stanley Baraboo
Baraboo-1 Stanley Baraboo
Hi Michele .. I have no problem. We are collaborating and exchanging ideas that are healthy and will benefit the accuracy of profiles. Yes, Barbot and Barbeau are well known names for several hundreds of years in France, Nouvelle France, England and other French regions. I like your points about the profile structure. One of the things I like about WikiTree and WikiTreers is that we can collaborate and there is room for customizing profiles using WikiTree established guidelines.

No problem Michèle Calonnec I look forward to your insights and our collaboration.

posted by Stanley Baraboo
[Living Calonnec]
It is clear to me that the spelling of the family name is a major problem for you but when doing the merge, I have not changed your setup out of courtesy;

In return, I would expect you to respect my set up; as I see it BIRTH, MARRIAGE and BURIAL are the 3 main occurences in anyone's life, therefore deserving top priority in a bio ( not just notes) I would expect others to add occupation, residence, character, etc, in between these events.

N.B. if you look at "Fichier Origine", you will note that BARBOT was the correct spelling of the time in France.

posted by [Living Calonnec]
Baraboo-1 Stanley Baraboo
The "Barbeau" and "Barbot" surnames often represented the same person especially in the dit Boisdore, dit Poitevin and dit LaForest family lines during 1632-1750 circa in Nouvelle France.

Variants are known to have occured and depended on who transcribed, wrote and at what time period the hand written Catholic documents were made. (Later registers tended to be more accurate)

Without access or the abilities to read or write, families may not have edited the Catholic registers. The same family residing in different parishes might have their names recorded differently. Siblings were often recorded with different spellings.

Nouvelle France Jesuits, Sulpicians or the Recollet often translated names differently because of different French dialects, what they heard, French surnames they were most familiar with and in some cases appear to have decided on the name themself.

Cross referencing with civil documents of the period is helpful.

posted by Stanley Baraboo
[Living Calonnec]
Hello Jerry,

According to Danielle Liard's answer to you a few days ago, I have corrected the LNAB, current last name and other last name for Barbeau-519; this profile is now Barbot-71 and I agree it should be merged with Barbeau dit Poitevin-1 but please remember the final version should be Barbot-71 because Barbot is the proper LNAB according to bapt. record

posted by [Living Calonnec]

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