I am trying to establish whether Cyprian Bridge Knocker b 13/9/1825 Harwich, England was aka George Willson?

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WikiTree profile: Augustine Knocker
in Genealogy Help by Tim Breden G2G Rookie (150 points)

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How was he related to Augustine?
by Living Poole G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
good question!
George Willson's son is on wikitree here https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Willson-2742
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Cyprian Bridge Knocker, {aka George WILLSON}'s Geni Profile

  • Cyprian Bridge Knocker, {aka George WILLSON}
Also Known As: "George WILLSON"
Birthdate: September 13, 1825
Death: December 20, 1867 (42) 
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Immediate Family:

Son of William Knocker, Junior and Augusta Ann Knocker 
Brother of Mary Palmer KnockerAugusta Ann OliverNancy KnockerAnn Margaret KnockerWilliam Knocker, infant and 9 others 
Half brother of Marie Victoria Mathilde DuboisWilliam Eloi KnockerEdmond Antoine Knocker, infantCharles Edouard Knocker and Caroline Margaret Olivier 

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Last Updated: February 26, 2020

Matching family tree profiles for Cyprian Bridge Knocker, {aka George WILLSON}

About Cyprian Bridge Knocker, {aka George WILLSON}

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/158926738 Adelaide Observer - Saturday 11/11/1848 Witness in court case

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60521673 Empire - Mon 19/1/1863 Page 1 CYPRIAN BRIDGE KNOCKER.-A REWARD is offered to any one who will give information respecting Mr. CYPRIAN BRIDGE KNOCKER, so as to enable his friends to communicate with him, if living ; otherwise to obtain proof of his death. He was last beard of in 1854, at Sydney, N.S.W., or that neighbourhood. It is possible that be has assumed another name, or left the country. His age now would be 37 years.. He used to put up at the Marino Hotel, Circular Quay; was known to another innkeeper in Yass. Should he see this advertisement, or if any one can communicate with him, he is earnestly requested to refer to his family, and he will LEARN SOMETHING to his ADVANTAGE, Letters to be addressed to Mr. EDWARD KNOCKER, Solicitor, Dover, England.

Cyprian Bridge Knocker, {aka George WILLSON} (1825 - 1867) - Genealogy

by Susan Smith G2G6 Pilot (658k points)
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The Geni Profile quoted by Susan Smith actually shows an incorrect date of death. 

Actual death date is 21 Aug 1869 (21/08/1869)

Name: GEORGE WILLSON

Death certificate Number and year: 6194/1869 

Father's first name: WILLIAM

Mother's first name: AUGUSTA A

Death Registration District: TENTERFIELD

You can order the death certificate online and it will likely tell you the surnames of his parents as well as other information otherwise not available.

To order his death certificate,  Search for his death at

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search then tick the box and click "Add to Order" - Email method of delivery costs $35.

If you lived in Sydney and are prepared to do come physical searching, then you might be able to find out for free by attending in person at the state Library or the state archives. State archives may have probate (court case on his estate/will and those documents usually include a copy of the death certificate)

by Ro Hull G2G6 Mach 1 (13.1k points)
edited by Ro Hull
T E N T E R F I E L D
Mondny night.
DEATH OF MR. GEORGE WILLSON, J.P.,
OF TENTERFIELD.-We are this week unexpectedly
called upon to chronicle the decease of Mr. George
Willson, J.P., who carried on business for many
years at the Maryland Stores, being at one time the
principal storekeeper in Tenterfield. Mr. Willson's
death, which was occasioned by apoplexy, took place
on Saturday morning last, the 21st instant, and his
remains were interred at Tenterfield on Sunday.
The deceased has left a widow and several children.

"The NLA newspapers beta website showed a column in The Sydney Morning Herald dated 2 September 1927 on p.6 that was headed Willson’s Downfall – To the Editor of The Herald, which read as follows: "Sir, – The statement of Mr. John White in his letter in to-day’s "Herald" as to the origin of the name "Willson’s Downfall", in the Tenterfield district, is correct. The writer was for many years resident in that district, and had heard several old residents who knew the late Mr. George Willson confirm the fact that he had a capsize on the road at or near where the small village of Willson’s Downfall stands, and hence the name. The village is situated about 29 miles north of Tenterfield, on the Stanthorpe [Queensland]- Warwick road."

"Mr. Willson was, at one time, in partnership with a Mr. Sweetland, and he owned or had mortgages over, one might say, half the town properties of Tenterfield, but unfortunately ended in a "financial" downfall, but it was the "physical" upset that still keeps his name alive in the nomenclature of the district."

"In his time he was a leading citizen, and a sort of commercial "King." The Maryland Stores, where he carried on business, ..."  and quite a bit more

http://www.auspostalhistory.com/articles/1914.shtml

His son, Robert's wikitree profile, says that 

Robert Willson was born on 23 May 186[1]7 in Tenterfield, New South Wales, Australia as the child of George (Cyprian Bridge) Willson (Knocker) and Mary Bamberry (Willson)

But there is no source listed showing/proving that George Willson and Cyprian Bridge Knocker are one and same person

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NSW Marriage date 19 Jan 1858 (19/01/1858)

Marriage certificate number and year 2787/1858 

GEORGE WILLSON

MARY BAMBERRY

Registration district WARWICK

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search

George Willson has a profile on Findagrave which says he was buried in Tenterfield Cemetery and that he was born 13 Sep 1825 at Harwich, Tendring District, Essex, England.

He also has a profile on familysearch.org where our questioner himself says that the change of name is supported by "His kids birth certificate. And have a diary entry where he changes his name" (Last Changed: February 22, 2020 by TimothyBreden)

There is only 1 familysearch.org originated attached source:-  the 1825 christening for Cyprian Bridge Knocker (showing his parents as William Knocker and Augusta Ann Knocker)
There are two other attached Ancestry.com custom sources attached but I can't see what they link to.
 

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This answer doesn't pretend to answer the question of whether the change is Knocker to Willson but it does give an interesting story behind the WHY George Willson changed it from what ever it was...

The reason has been passed on by a descendent of George Willson.  After George established his business, he decided to marry a Tenterfield lady. He wrote home to England that he planned to marry an Australian girl. The letter took 3 months to get there by sailing ship and it then took 3 months for Wilson to get an unexpected reply. His parents had assumed that an “Australian girl” meant an aboriginal girl and wrote to inform him that he had been “cut off with a shilling” (an old English expression for ‘disinherited’). He was so upset he decided to change his name, and put plans in motion. After some consideration, he decided on the simpler action of changing the spelling to double L. He fathered 10 children who also bore the same spelling.

source https://www.harriganslanecollective.com.au/the-property

by Ro Hull G2G6 Mach 1 (13.1k points)

Also a "An account of the life of George Willsonwritten at the time of his marriage 1858." has been uploaded to familysearch.org by Chels Leslie.  This account gives details of various places he and relatives (father, brother) has visited. These could be used as clues to research to find what names were used.  This story gives account of long history of family disagreements even leading to thinking there could have been more than one name change.

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