Could someone please look at this profile for me.

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I haven't finished mom's biography yet, as I got hung up on one of the daughter's. 

What I need to know is: Did I effectively state that the majority of the published genealogies are wrong, how they are wrong, and my conclusions based on the evidence (good and bad) found or not found?

Elisabeth "Betsey" Prentice

in Genealogy Help by T Counce G2G6 Mach 7 (74.0k points)

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Oh boy, these Histories of Family So & So drive me nuts.  I always look at the publication date and the publisher.  After the American Centennial of 1876 it seems there was a plethora of these so called historical biographies published by authors or commissioned by families  attempting to prove just how 'American' they were.  Many are books published by what today is know as a vanity press or publisher. And those books that pick a locality and not a family are usually written by a prominent local person, possibly attempting to show how scholarly they are to their peer group.

Sadly many are based on verbal histories and not actual records.  Though some do have a mixture of both. Unless published by a known authority on genealogy/history/etc. and states actual sources or by a known major publisher of historical books, I view all of these books published between 1876 and the First World War as references and not sources.  Great for hints, but not gospel.

I use the First World War as an end point as this practice seemed to die out around that time.  Having said that, there are still many published after then that I am circumspect of.

And I think you stated your case quite well on this Profile.

by LJ Russell G2G6 Pilot (219k points)
selected by Laura Enomoto
I attended a webinar recently, in which the instructor explained that back in that time frame, you refer to, genealogy was predominantly a gentleman's "hobby" after retirement, so they would have something to do to occupy their time. Some of them are pretty accurate, but I still prefer to have documentation with records to back up what the books say...I have to admit being force into retirement put me onto the genealogy bandwagon, but even when I first started and didn't have a clue what I was doing I wanted the documents (birth record, marriage record, etc.)
I agree with the instructor, I think whey were just being a bit more sensitive than I.  LOL

And documents do beat all.  I was just alluding that before 1876 these types of books were written and after the First World War they were written, just that there was an explosion of these printed in the time frame I mentioned due to an increased sense of Americanism after the Centennial. And that too many folks on WikiTree use these as real sources, as you found with this Profile.  I have seen multiple Profiles created where the manger used one of these books as the sole basis to add that name to WikiTree.  And almost always without any other source as verification.

I believe this practice faltered around WW I as many of the folks who would delve into this research and print it had German ancestry.  With the Anti-German sentiment fostered by the war, a lot of people weren't too interested in proclaiming their Germany ancestry. ;)

JMHO
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Great job explaining why you disagree with the published books! Sounds like a big confusion and I'm glad you're the one who took it on ;)
by E Childs G2G6 Pilot (134k points)
LOL, it is a huge mess, though it only took me a couple of hours to figure it out...it's explaining it that is time consuming. Sometimes I articulate what I'm trying to say in a way that sounds confusing. Thank you for the affirmation that I didn't do that this time. I'm also sure a lot of people would prefer not to take on that mess....
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Very interesting.  I also have an ancestral Prentice line in New England and it too is covered in Binney's book on the Prentice family.  The 1883 edition is much better researched than the 1850's edition, although still grasping for evidence in some areas, such as the one you illustrated.  Interestingly, the improved references in the 1883 edition led to an error of identification in my line that has become so widespread that I fear it will never get corrected beyond Wikitree.  An ancestress of mine who married into a Prentice line was listed as "Joane---(per Savage)",  which appears to have led to someone deciding that this meant her LNAB was Savage!  And with all the copy and pasting, borrowing, etc on Ancestry and other sites it may never get changed.  "per Savage" simply referred to Savage's earlier works on early New England settlers.

Unfortunately, identification and finding records for female lines is so much harder than the male lines.  Once I trimmed out all the incorrect information that has accumulated, basically nothing was left but her first name (and that too has a variety of interpretations) and her marriage record to mark her existence.

Keep up the good researching; the further back we go, the more documented facts we need.
by Art Black G2G6 Mach 5 (56.2k points)
I have noted that the further back we go marriage and baptism records are sometimes all I can find. I feel blessed to find a death record (or at least a readable tombstone with the information on it). I do have an appreciation for the Connecticut Barbour Collection and Hale Collection (though those are not always infallible either).

I've also noticed around the time of the Civil War records are hard to find again...very frustrating...fortunately after laws were passed it starts to get easier.

Thank you for the compliment Art...it is very much appreciated.

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