Connecting John Harvey to his parents

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John Harvey was born in England about 1850. He married Harriet Wirt in April 1875 in New Troy, Michigan. They had one child for sure, Alva Harvey who was born in 1880 or 1881. They most likely had two more children: George and Clara Harvey were both born in Three Oaks, Berrien County, Michigan to a John and Harriet Harvey in 1877 and 1878, George died in 1878, Clara probably died in infancy as well. Sometime before 1900, Harriet left John and her son Alva to go live with her daughter from before John, in Ransom, North Dakota. John was granted a divorce in 1904 and was remarried in 1906. John died Jan 24, 1917 in Berrien Township, Michigan.

I am trying to connect John to his supposed parents. He sure seems to be the son of Robert Harvey (1881-1887) and Mary Sophia Cooke (1815-1857) of Norfolk, England. I have come in contact with descendants of two of Robert's sons online and they seem to agree. Robert Jr (1849-1905) and Henry (1854-1941) came to the US and stopped in Michigan for work for a few years before moving to Nebraska. Their brother John came with them but maybe he stayed in Michigan? (The brothers also may not have come to the US at the same time, they all list different years of immigration on censuses, in 1910 John's lists 1869 but I haven't found a record for his immigration). John's second marriage record lists his father as "Robert" and that's the only mention of a father I've been able to find, I haven't been able to find his first marriage record (online at least).

Could this be enough information to say that John is the son of Robert and Mary? Any ideas on where else I could look that might list John's parents after he came to the US?

I have compiled some photos of records here: https://imgur.com/a/kW0nL

WikiTree profile: Harriet Harvey
in Genealogy Help by Stephanie Andrews G2G Crew (340 points)
What was the name of his second wife ?

He married second, Lucretia (Hoover) Maxson. 

Record here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3JW-YHW

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The General Register Office in England has these three records:

HARVEY, JOHN     COOKE   Order
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in TUNSTD & HAPPG  Volume 13  Page 363
HARVEY, ROBERT  COOK   COOKE   Order
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in OF TUNSTD & HAPPING  Volume 13  Page 355
   
 
     
   
 
HARVEY, HENRY  GEORGE   COOKE   Order
GRO Reference: 1854  M Quarter in OF TUNSTD & HG  Volume 04B  Page 43
     

All bear the mother's maiden name of Cooke, with the births registered in Tunstead District, Norfolk 

by Living Woodhouse G2G6 Pilot (287k points)
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This is Robert & John with their parents in 1851 England Census:

Name: Robert Harvey
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's name: Robert Harvey
Mother's name: Sophia Harvey
Gender: Male
Where born: Stalham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Stalham
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:

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County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Tunstead
Sub-registration district: Ludham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 1808
Folio: 327
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Harvey 40
Sophia Harvey 36
Charles Harvey 13
Jeremiah Harvey 10
Mary S Harvey 3
Elizabeth Harvey 6
Martha A Harvey 7
Robert Harvey 2
John Harvey 9 Mo
Ann Beane 38
Sarah C Beane 1
by Living Woodhouse G2G6 Pilot (287k points)
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The three brothers father and step mother Rosina Henrietta (Hastings) in 1861 Census:

Name: Robert Harvey
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: 1849
Relation: Son
Father's name: Robert Harvey
Mother's name: Rosina H Harvey
Gender: Male
Where born: Stalham, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Stalham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Tunstead
Sub-registration district: Stalham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Piece: 1199
Folio: 11
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Harvey 50
Rosina H Harvey 38
Mary Harvey 15
Robert Harvey 12
John Harvey 10
Henry Harvey 7
by Living Woodhouse G2G6 Pilot (287k points)
Thank you for all the great info and the record links. Any advice on where I can look to "prove" that John Harvey who died in Berrien County in 1917 is the same John that is the son of Robert and Sophia?

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