Collaboration Requested on Christopher Crevier and Jeanne Evard/Enard

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I been working hard on writing biographies for the Crevier family.  This week, I've been working particularly on Christophe Crevier, Sieur de La Meslé and his wife Jeanne Évard. Their daughter married another founder Pierre Boucher, at one time governor of Trois-Rivieres and later founder of Boucherville.  And their descendants married into a great many of the founding families of Québec, so they are important to a lot of us. Biographies are always a work in progress, and I have more to add to both Christophe and Jeanne, but what is needed for this collaboration is in their biographies now.

Thanks to the research of Gilles Parenteau and the many images of original documents in his web pages along with the availability of many old French records online at the departmental archives and old New France church records on familysearch.org, I've been able to reexamine many of the original records.  There are a lot of them.  I've tried to link as many of them as I can to the biographies and cite and compare as many sources for the others as I could.

Christophe and Jeanne are known to have eight children which are well documented: Christophe, Jeanne, François, Jean, Marguerite, Nicolas, Marie, and Jean-Baptiste.  All are linked to both Christophe's and Jeanne's profiles.

I'm seeking collaboration from other members of the Quebecois project (and anyone else interested) on three other purported children which appear in a number of genealogies, histories and secondary sources: Antoine, Jerome and Joseph.  Each has a profile linked to Christophe and Jeanne as parents.  I have researched them each thoroughly and I believe I have traced all the references back to one, and only one, original source document for each.  Right now, all my research and opinions on them are in a research note on Christophe's profile.

In my opinion, the single source document for each of these purported children is particularly weak and does not support the existence of additional children for Christophe and Jeanne.  But opinions differ.  I'd like to reach some sort of a consensus on whether these three profiles should be linked as children of Christophe and Jeanne.  

Once a consensus is reached, I would like to see the consensus and the research added to the three profiles for Antoine, Joseph and Jerome and have those profiles either connected to or disconnected from Christophe and Jeanne (and marked as dubious people if appropriate) according to the consensus and then have those profiles project protected to avoid the problem being recreated.

I'd also like to see the profiles, many of which I created, for Christophe and Jeanne's ancestors and family in France project protected.  I don't know if it is appropriate to protect them through the Quebecois project since the French part of the family never came to New France, but I don't see an appropriate French project to put them under.

Finally, in my dreams, I'd love to see the biographies of Christophe and Jeanne in both French and English, but my genealogical French is woefully insufficient to write biographies in French or translate what I've written to French.  Jeanne's biography was already started in French, so there are a few paragraphs in French with the basic information followed by a paragraph in English with the same information citing to the same sources.  It would be wonderful if someone fluent in both languages would volunteer to translate the English parts I've written into French.  Any volunteers?

 

WikiTree profile: Christophe Crevier
in Requests for Project Volunteers by Mary Jensen G2G6 Pilot (131k points)
Wow, very impressive. Have you see Denis' site? http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec-genealogy/002/002272.php
James, it doesn't really add anything, Denis Beauregard has the 3 extra children who are so far unproven by our standards listed, with no data other than their names.

 

Meanwhile Mary, lost some of my research notes on things to look up, since my old computer died on me suddenly, so will have to get back to this later.
James, I have used Denis Beauregard's site especially when  he cites sources.  But for this issue, he does not add anything that will help us resolve the issue.

Danielle, sorry about your computer that died.  I know the feeling.  I can't find some notes from my research on one family line about 25 years ago. I have a feeling it only existed on the backups of my old Apple IIe computer which I discarded a few years ago as I had nothing left that could read them. I hope you can get yours back.
Hi Mary, have done a bare bones bio in French, all the various litigation is covered in a link in the section.  Have noted the document I need to go look at in archives here to see if it truly is evidence of Antoine's existence.
If you are talking about the Journal of the Jesuits, I can email you an image of it.  I've checked that.
Danielle, Thank you for the basic bio in French.
no, Jesuits journal is available on-line I believe, am going to eventually go down to archives and look up the notarial act that is supposedly done by Antoine Crevier, one of the doubtful children.

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since Christophe is my 10th ggfather, I'll bite.  :D
by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (672k points)
this is going to take some time, have made a start but have my own sources to dig through also.

Thanks.  Depending on which line you are in, you are at least my husband's 9th cousin once removed.  Christophe is his 9x great grandfather.  My husband is a descendant of Charles Etienne Crevier, who was the great great grandson of Christophe and second son of the third Seigneur of Saint François du Lac, Joseph Augustin Crevier and his wife Marie-Charlotte Lemaitre.

I saw that you have a possible additional source for an Antoine Crevier.  I'm looking forward to reviewing the sources you have. Its amazing how much information is available about this couple.

What source is it that you have volume and page numbers for on the notarial acts?  So far, I've been mostly stuck with what historians say about the notarial acts with few of them even quoting them.  Recently, I've found a few transcriptions of short acts and a number of descriptions of acts I've not heard about before at http://archivescanada.accesstomemory.ca  but I'm still learning to use that source.

Danielle, I think I see from the work you did today that the references to the volumes and page numbers somehow tie into the notarial index at http://numerique.banq.qc.ca .  I will try to work on learning to use that and see if I can figure out how I can link to the specific acts.  I'm learning a lot from this collaboration.
Mary, the Notarial acts index is just that, an indexation done of notarial acts during the French régime, it's in PDF format and can be downloaded, fair warning, it's 28 volumes long.  ;)  One can search each volume individually, the index at the beginning only collates the data of the first 8 volumes.

On the Antoine item, I will go downtown eventually and look up the original act, they are not on-line unfortunately, but can be viewed at the archives in microfilm format.
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Hi, I updated wwww.saint-francois-du-lac.com

See again in Les seigneurs, Christophle Crevier, his children

Gilles Parenteau, Montréal
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Gilles, Thank you for all the work you have done on the Creviers and Saint François du Lac.  I will check what you have added.

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