Cutting down false family tree, others handling well?

+6 votes
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I chimed in on the John-Richard-John Belgrave link (one of my links to kings of old). Replies from experienced genealogists lead me to cut that branch off--no source for the link.

Now, exploring another link (to significant families) I find mushy-nothing support (family trees online with no given source) for two links in the chain to George Clarke, 1510 in Forde Hall, Wrotham, Kent, England Son of James (Clerke) Clark Esq. and Elizabeth (Ferrers) Clerke.

In searching online I find many family trees attaching themselves onto this line, again with no source. To me it looks fake. I feel this branch also should be cut. Thoughts?
in The Tree House by Living Bartelt G2G6 (9.9k points)
I think disconnecting is the only way to fight the junk. See my thread on Unlinkers (which makes a lot of people here angry but is absolutely necessary).
Thanks so far on the comments and answers. I think my plan is to wait a bit then mark parents are uncertain. Then, look again for support . If I find none will add a section on disputed parentage.

I have already removed notables linked to me through this line from my profile page.

2 Answers

+10 votes

I also have been fretting about the fanciful nature of the genealogy I see in some lines involving people named George Clarke (not just this line). 

It helps to tread cautiously when cutting family trees.  I have observed that there are some people who need to be carefully convinced that the lineage they have recorded (whether it came from a book, a relative, their own creative research, or 2,000 online family trees) is wrong, or at least is unsupported by evidence. And regarding lack of evidence, remember that the fact that you or I can't find a baptism or marriage record in online sources doesn't necessarily mean that the record doesn't exist (but people who claim to have evidence should be challenged to supply their sources).

Before you cut off a person's parent connections:

  1. Add a boxed message to the profile to describe what you intend to do, and why. This will generate an email message to the listed profile managers.
  2. Write a "Disputed Parents" section (or similar title that fits the contents) and make it the first text section of the profile. In that section, describe the theories that have been advanced for the person's parentage (or whatever), say who advanced them (identify sources), and explicate the flaws in them based on citations to records, citations to high-quality genealogical publications, logic (e.g., it's not credible that the supposed mother married a 45-year-old man when she was 12 years old), etc.
  3. If the issues turn out to be contentious or complex, start a G2G discussion about the profile or the family.

And once there is consensus (or at least acquiescence) for the change, document the change in a message box on the page (removal of parent connections doesn't always get clearly documented in the change history) and request profile protection so the parents can't be restored willynilly.

by Ellen Smith G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)
+4 votes
Please don't disconnect legendary parents.  Instead mark them as uncertain. Y-DNA and mtDNA can (and have) confirmed deep ancestral lines.  Wikitree has 12 direct maternal lines which have been mtDNA tested and are over ten generations.  WikiTree has 51 direct paternal lines which are over ten generations which have been Y-DNA tested: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:WikiTree_Tops#DNA

Thanks and sincerely, Peter

Http://www.wikitree.com/blog/why-ysearch-matters/

http://www.wikitree.com/blog/the-beauty-of-mtdna-mitosearch-in-wikitree/
by Peter Roberts G2G6 Pilot (710k points)
These Clarkes aren't legendary.
George Clerke is a descendant of a Magna Carta surety baron Saher de Quincy.

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