He is listed with his wife Cath in the 1850 census . They had a daughter born in NY about 1841, (census had her at 9 yrs old. John was born in Ireland , I think Tipperary Co. He had an older sister born 1817 i think. His farther was John < mother Mary Kirvan both born act 1795. Source was a person who did the research for me. His sister Honora and three brothers all came to the states and settled in the Iowa area.