Finding Christen Fliflet

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I have been researching Christen and Maria Fliflet.  Would like to try to get some help before they both become unknows as Fliflet is not their LNAB, just where they lived. 

So far, I know:

Christen (Kristian) and Marthe (Maria, Marta) Flifleth  

Christen's last name was listed as Poulsen<ref name="sonwed" /> when son Peder was married.  This may not be accurate as no other references use Poulsen and it was significantly later.

Christen was married to Maria.  They lived at Fliflet, Fåberg, Oppland, Norge.<ref name="one">SAH, Fåberg prestekontor, H/Ha/Haa/L0004: Parish register (official) no. 4, 1833-1837, p. 58-59 #10. https://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070603640127.jpg</ref>

Flifet was attached to Lien, some references use Fliflet-lien.<ref name="info" />

Their children include:

* Peder (21 Mar 1824<ref name="info">Fåberg prestekontor, SAH/PREST-086/H/Ha/Haa/L0003: Ministerialbok nr. 3, 1818-1833, s. 112-113

Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603630592

</ref> - ) Peder married Sidsel Stenersdatter on 29 Dec 1856.<ref name="sonwed">"Norway Church Books, 1815-1930", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6836-WDBB : Mon Oct 30 19:03:57 UTC 2023), Entry for Peder Christen and Christen Poulsen, 29 Dec 1856.</ref>

* Hans (2 Feb 1827<ref>Fåberg prestekontor, SAH/PREST-086/H/Ha/Hab/L0004: Klokkerbok nr. 4, 1818-1837, s. 150-151

Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603630079

</ref> - )

* Marthe (16 Jan 1828<ref>Fåberg prestekontor, SAH/PREST-086/H/Ha/Hab/L0004: Klokkerbok nr. 4, 1818-1837, s. 166-167

Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603630087

</ref> - )

* Eli (10 Dec 1830<ref>Fåberg prestekontor, SAH/PREST-086/H/Ha/Haa/L0003: Ministerialbok nr. 3, 1818-1833, s. 326-327, No. 4.

Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603630696

</ref> - )

* Ingeborg (19 Jan 1834<ref>Fåberg prestekontor, SAH/PREST-086/H/Ha/Haa/L0004: Ministerialbok nr. 4, 1833-1837, s. 32-33

Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603640113

</ref> - )

* [[Christiansdatter-288|Berta (Christiansdatter) Traaseth (1835-1904)]]

In 1855 Kristian Fliflet from Kastrud is mentioned as having bought a portion (along with Ole Bratberg) of a wood dam.  The two had a saw mill at Lortholoa. A third portion of the dam was sold to a Christian Øvergård.<ref>''Fåberg og Lillehammer''. 1985. {{nb.no|NBN:no-nb_digitidsskrift_2019013181237_001}}.  https://www.nb.no/items/18973c6001088205e9403af80dc15cb9?page=134</ref>

A Kristian Fliflet is mentioned in Jun 1859.<ref>''Fåberg og Lillehammer''. 1985. {{nb.no|NBN:no-nb_digitidsskrift_2019013181237_001}}. https://www.nb.no/items/18973c6001088205e9403af80dc15cb9?page=111</ref>

== Research Notes ==

Have checked the Fliflets listed in the https://www.faberghistorielag.no/assets/files/personnavnregister_42.pdf. Two are listed above as possible matches, but no direct link. None of the others align with Christian and Marthe.  Fliflet was a long line of sheriffs in Fåberg, but not this one.   Doesn't appear to be a son of one of them either.

There are some possibilities in https://www.faberghistorielag.no/assets/files/hattestad/gnr-129.pdf  page 3 with a Christian son of an Anne Syversdotter born in 1798.  But haven't found anything to show it could be him.

Possible wedding info 10 Dec 1822 - Fåberg prestekontor, SAH/PREST-086/H/Ha/Hab/L0004: Klokkerbok nr. 4, 1818-1837, s. 384-385

Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603630197

Both at Høglien

in Genealogy Help by Erik Fretheim G2G6 Mach 1 (14.2k points)

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When in doubt, look for Confirmation records. Here is Peder. Nr.2. Parents Christen Paulsen and Marta Larsdatter

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070131650524

Ringebuslekter has his father listed as Brubakken.

https://onshus.no/getperson.php?personID=I95456&tree=1

by R Hagen G2G2 (2.2k points)
selected by Erik Fretheim
Thanks.  Good call with the confirmation records.   I tend to forget about them.
I don't think the Brubakken is correct.   I found the marriage for Christen and Marta.  It was in 1812, which implies they likely had a number of children before the first one found at Fliflet in 1824 - Peder.    Looking back there are a large numbe of Christen and Marthe pairs that had children.  One of them was at Brubakken, and was a Peder born 17 Apr 1823.  If this were the same couple, then that Peder would have died before Mar 1824 (a tight timeline anyway).  couldn't find a record for that.   

Do think they lived elsewhere before 1824, just can't find anything to confirm which couple of the many they are.  Some examples.

hristen Paulsen married Marthe Larsdatter on 2 Jan 1812.  Looks like Christen was from Jordad? and Marthe from Dalen. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9276/44959/260

Would be strange not to have children for 12 years.   

There is a Peder born to Christen and Maria Bruebakken on 17 Apr 1823.  But no record of a death of a Peder Christensen prior to Peder in Fliflet being born. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/49 - #44

There is a Peder born to Christopher and Marit Hovland in Dec 1822 https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/45 and died in 9 Jan 1823. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44962/12

Olea i Höglirn 13 Oct 1822. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/42

There is an Ole to Christen and Marte in Skoug. 1 Sep 1822. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/41

An Ingebor to Christian and Marith in Sothovi 11 Oct 1822. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/41

An Ole to Christen and Marte in Einsbye 8 Mar 1822. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/40

Marthea 30 Nov 1821 i Ronne. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/33

Ammund 21 Aug 1821 - Christian and Marthe in Bakke. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/30

29 Jun 1821 Maria - Christen and Marthe in Aanerud https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/28

17 Apr 1821 Christen - Christian and Marith in förHovi https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/26

11 Dec 1820 Johan - Christen and Marte Piasneberg? https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/24

3 Dec 1820 Lars - Christen and Marthe in nedr Dahl. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/23

10 Nov 1820 Ole - Christen and MAri Traaseth https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/22

23 Nov 1819 Ingeborg - Christen and Marthe 0 Skoug https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/13

14 May 1819 - Christen and Mari i hövlien https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/11

14 Mar 1819 - Christen and Marte lömmmen ?   https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/9

16 Feb 1819 - Christen and Marthe in ???  https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9279/44964/8

Looks like still more investigation needed.

We know they were at Fliflet when Peder was born in 1824. So I went back to the Confirmation records. 

Ane Xtensd. Flifletlien. Nr.19 born 1812, confirmed 1827. 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603640043

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603620637

Tar det på norsk. Flifletlien ble noen ganger bare kalt Lien. I 1838 Tilhørte Fliflet Christoffer Simensen mens Flifletlien var Ole Arnesen sin. 

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/35477/38

https://www.faberghistorielag.no/assets/files/hattestad/gnr-130.pdf

Flifletlien hadde 3-4 husmannsplasser.

https://www.nb.no/items/c9b83fb24894c06102f821df8738ac58?page=193&searchText=Fliflet

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