Could I get a translation of this Italian birth record?

Question

Family Search indexed this birth record (no. 661 for Magliano) as 21 Feb 1889, but I read 24 Feb 1889. It also states the mother’s name, but I don’t see that mentioned (with my basic Italian). Also looking for some clarity on first given name. Could someone with Italian experience translate this? Thanks

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9TWR-LFL?i=1639&cc=1967801

Comments

The birth was on the 21st, but it was recorded on the 24th, which is the date of the record.

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Thanks. I can see that now. I also now see the mother’s name mentioned: Vaser, Rosa.

Still hoping to get all the other details. It appears to list an address. Still hoping to get confirmation of first name, though she was known as Teresa/Theresa/Terezza.

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I believe her name was Cleope Caterina Teresa Magliano.

I couldn't figure out the father's occupation, but the street name is Re Umberto in Turin. I don't know the word in front of it is, but it might be terzo which is 3rd. I checked Google Earth and Re Umberto is a street in Turin.

I made a page with some typical words in Italian records, as well as numbers, months, etc. and a chart with handwriting samples that may be able to help you.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Extracting_Information_from_Italian_Records

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Lucy, I think the word is 'Corso'...they lived at #56.

For further family research, an important tidbit is Michele's age; 21= B.~1868. I did not view all the other children's birth records, but did take a peek at Antonio Attilio's Nov 1890 which shows Michele's age as 23 (B.~1867)...so am guessing the estimated birth year listed at familysearch's profiles (1860) may be off (I would begin marriage search for Michele + Rosa in 1888->work back vs add 20 years to 1860=1880->work up....

BTW, by 1890 the family was living @ #17 Via Madonna Cristina. Michele's profession appears to be 'decoratore'

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The address is Corso Re Umberto 56. "Corso" means "Avenue". And I believe the name is Cleofe, not Cleope.

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@Lucy, thanks for the link to that page on Italian records. Very helpful!

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Thanks Nick and Francesca. Teresa is somewhat notable and most outside sources (Wikipedia for her husband and her son) show her first name as “Cleope”, but after viewing the birth record and the FS index, I wondered if it should be “Cleofe”. Wikipedia can be corrected.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Magliano-1

Answer 1

The first name appears to be Cleofe.

https://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Cleofe

Comments

Thanks Mark, that is what I read too.

Answer 2

They married in 1888: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQJ-N9B4-3

Michele was a decorator. Born 1 Aug 1867 in Baldissero d'Alba in Cuneo province. Rosa Vaser born 20 Jun 1872 in Torino.

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Wow, thanks Frank. This is a great find. I tried looking briefly but didn’t have any success.

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I used the 10-year indexes. Torino is a pain because there's multiple registration offices but at least the indexes are complete. Found both of their birth records also, they're now linked in FamilySearch.

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Thanks Frank. This is great. I have started adding them to WikiTree too.

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Frank, do you have an opinion on her first name Cleope or Cleofe? Most outside sources (Wikipedia for her husband and her son) show her first name as “Cleope”, but after viewing the birth record and the FS index, I wondered if it should be “Cleofe”. Wikipedia can be corrected.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Magliano-1