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I'm looking for some help tracking down any information on my 3rd great grandfather Samuel Cague. I have connected him to William Cague who I'm pretty sure is his father but I can't find any records of births, deaths, or marriages for any of the family members.

A family history book written in the 1960's provides some information but no sources and also notes the following:

EPILOGUE

I would like to end this account of our ancestors with some clarification of the surname Cague. This name is very interesting. There are no Cagues’ registered in the London Telephone Directory, or in Scotland, England, Ireland or Northern Ireland. At one stage of this investigation of our family, I was admittedly on the wrong track when I thought the name was Spanish in origin. This came about after a suggestion that we were perhaps descendants of the shipwrecked sailors from the ill fated Spanish Armada. Those people settled and intermarried in Ireland during the 15th century. This evidence was further strengthened when on writing to Spanish Professor of History in Madrid I was advised by him that an Officer in the Spanish Armada carried the name Caiqul, which could have been changed into the gaelic Cague at a later period. However Professor Brown, of the Spanish Department at Leeds University informed me the name was not Spanish in origin and recommended me to contact the greatest authority on Irish surnames, a Dr. E.A. McLysaght of the Irish Manuscript Commission. This person agreed that Cague and MacCague is a well known indigenous Irish name MacThaidgh in Ireland, which is cognate with the better known Tague or MacTeige. He agrees that the name is originally Irish, they were called MacCaig or MacKeag in Scotland and were members of the Clan Harris. This has been so since the 15th century, but although in Scotland they were always ultimately of Irish origin. The dropping of the prefix Mac and 0 was common during the Gaelic submergence. MacCague is associated with County Monaghan where it is found without the prefix Mac, as Cague. Dr. McLysaght also advises me there are now no Cagues’ recorded anywhere in Ireland or in Northern Ireland. This makes the name unique. The Cagues’ in New Zealand are now the only people of that name left. There is evidence from the descendants of the early Cagues' that they changed the name from MacCague to Cague before they left Ireland. A James MacCague of County Tryone is at the moment checking this on my behalf.

WikiTree profile: Samuel Cague
in Genealogy Help by Carla Knight G2G3 (3.6k points)

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I just checked Scotland's People (the official national database of records) for births between 1533 and 1653 - long before William Cague - just to see what I could find. Spelling variations were numerous. As an example I found an early spelling of Macagie in Church of Scotland birth record for Helen, daughter of John Macagie and Christian Forbes on 9 July 1633 in Inveravon, Banffshire, Scotland. Also there were 6 marriages of various spelling variations of MacCague between 1715 and 1794 in different locations in Scotland.

If you've not yet explored Scotland's People for records with any kind of spelling variation you can think of, I highly recommend that you do. Also, keep in mind that Scottish Naming Patterns may be of assistance in connecting your ancestors to the records you find there.

In addition to Scotland's People, I also recommend checking FreeReg for births, marriages and deaths, especially if/when you find records in Scotland's People and want more info without paying for it.

Hope this gets you started. Have fun on your explorations!

best,
Beth

by Beth Golden G2G6 Mach 2 (26.8k points)
selected by Linda Bell
Hi Beth

Many thanks for your answer. Yes, I had tried Scotland's People in the past and came up with quite a number of results!

I think the key will be firstly tracking down information on William's birth record in Ireland ......... which the book author managed to do in the 1960's but hasn't proved as simple in the age of the internet!

Knowing his name at birth and perhaps parent's name may uncover some siblings which would be useful as would any information on his wife's family.
most welcome, Carla. Wishing you the best!

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