An interesting entanglement of marriages in Victorian London

Question

I came across an interesting set of marriages between a few families in my CC7. Cousins marrying, step-siblings marrying, 2 brothers marrying 2 sisters etc. It was so complicated I had to create a diagram just to be able to visualize it!

• Georgiana Maria Hall/Chantler married her step-brother John Alfred Chantler
• Alice Adeline Pavey married Charles Frederick Kelley who was the brother of the John William Kelley who her sister Beatrice Eliza Pavey married
• Julia Ann Pavey married Henry Chantler who was the brother of the Thomas Edwin Chantler who her sister Fanny Frances Pavey married
• Kate Florence Pavey/Chantler married Albert Edwin Chantler who was:
  • the 1st cousin of her mother
  • the 1st cousin of her step-father

Have you found interesting tangles of marriages in your CC7?

Answer 1

Oh my, Rob, that IS a tangle.  Can you imagine the family reunions?

Answer 2

I can see why you had to draw a diagram to visualise it Rob. Sorry to say, I'm glad it was you and not me trying to sort it all out.

The best I can claim to is three brothers marrying three sisters!

Answer 3

Nice graphics. I have a few like this, currently just hand drawn on paper on my desk. What software did you use?

Comments

I used the free online Google Drawings software.

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Thanks. I've tried a few free tools without much success but not Google Drawings. I'll try that next. How do you calculate your various different relationships to each person?  I've been told there is software available which will calculate all the different relationships between two individuals where there is entanglement like this. Currently, I do it manually.

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Once I draw a diagram it is fairly easy to work out the relationship.

If you want an automated way then the Relationship finder will tell you the closest relationship. E.g.: https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1Name=Pavey-486&person2Name=Pavey-429

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Yes, I know how to calculate the closest relationship. I want to calculate all the relationships, or at least all the relationships within a certain distance. This is useful for DNA matching. For example, if someone marries their 2C, the Relationship calculator will only show their relationship as spouse. The fact that they are 2C becomes is no longer visible....For some, there are workarounds (like the Connection Finder, filtered for common ancestor) but that doesn't work in all cases. I have taken to capturing an image of the relationship before I make a new connection.

Edit: I know I can do this manually, but I was wondering if anyone knows of a tool which can automate the process

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Yes it would be nice if the relationship finder worked like the connection finder where you can press the x on a person to exclude them.

Answer 4

There are several lines in my family (and another family where I now live [trying to help them untangle]) that a "Tree" is best described as a "Wreath". Just saying.