Alice Bradford, Top Connected Woman

Question

CC7 aficionados are of course knowing our top connected WikiTreer Patty LaPlante with a current CC7 of over 45k, second only to the current champion Jim Loden, who just passed the amazing milestone of 50k.

Maybe less known is the most connected notable woman, Hélène Des Portes, with a current CC7 of about 140k.

But beyond WikiTreers and notables, many profiles in the Big Tree, and among them, many women, reach CC7 values twice as large as the previous one. Shawn Ligocki has run a program on a recent data dump which captures, if not all (very tricky task), at least a good sample of top connected profiles. Among them is Alice (Bradford) Fitch (abt. 1659 - 1745), with a current CC7 over 325k, exactly 325,715 by this morning data. She's second only to her brother Joseph Bradford at 343k.

Shawn's program has retrieved hundreds of profiles with CC7 over 200k, most of them being "Early Settlers" either in New England (as the Bradford family and other Mayflower folks), Nouvelle-France, or South Africa.

The Nouvelle-France top connected woman seems to be Geneviève Roy with a CC7 at about 262k, her South African match being Johanna Adriana (de Beer) Pretorius at 204k.

Note that all those are beating the Top Connected Notable Brigham Young, who, despite his huge and a bit unfair starting C1 at 135, which should make him stand out, has a current CC7 of "only" 201k.

For the record, Samuel Lothrop, who used to be our top connected reference, is still a serious challenger of the Bradford family, with a CC7 of over 266k.

Check your distance to Alice Bradford, it should be less than 20. Her mean distance to all connected profile is just below 17 ... (mine is exactly 17).

Comments

One can wonder : so what about European women? They stand far behind, excepted some mothers or grandmothers of the above mentioned Early Settlers. Even most famous members of various British royal families. For example Queen Victoria, who used to be our connection "anchor" years ago, has a CC7 of only 13k as I write, not even enough to be featured among the 1,000 top connected notables. Mary Queen of Scots is ranked #907 as I write with a CC7 of 27k ...

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https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Capen-60 (Hannnah Guifford) from Dorchester, England. Father a shoemaker,  a woman employed by the puritan  town authorities to teach poor children has 73,246 connections.  (And althiugh  her notability is in her own right, her  connections  come from the US. Her father and most siblings emigrated to New England )

(The town is  proud of her,  just yesterday it was  announced that she's on a list of possibilities for a statue in the town. She'll get my vote)

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Thx Helen. Cast my vote for the statue!

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Alice is my 10th great grandmother

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I am 10 degrees from Alice Bradford.  Direct line. Interesting.

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@Clyde, that relationship is not found by either the Connection or Relationship Finder. The former says you are at 12 degrees following 3 branches, and the later says Alice is your 1st cousin 10 times removed. https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1Name=Green-42123&person2Name=Bradford-45

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@Bernard Vatant that is on my father's side, scroll down on my mother's side she is my 10th great grandmother

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Wrong alice...oops....Alice Carpenter Bradford was way 10th great grandmother

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An Alice may hide another one!

Answer 1

Very cool stats! I am also 17 degrees from Alice Bradford.

Answer 2

Great info. 

Alice Braford Fitch is 13 degrees  

Comments

Gary, that is not a real surprise since you had ancestors on the Mayflower ...

Answer 3

I am also 17 degrees from Alice

Answer 4

I am not a Mayflower descendant, but I’m 14 degrees from Alice and we are 4th cousins several times removed.

Answer 5

Alice is 16 degrees from me (3 branches:  5-4-8):

• Branch 1: Bradford (1) → Fitch (2) → Grant (1) → Hewitt (1)
• Branch 2: Widger (1) → Davis (3)
• Branch 3: Simpson (3) → Cooper (1) → Shough (1) → Buch (3)

Answer 6

20 degrees from Alice, but a more impressive 9 degrees from Johanna Pretorius. (Yes, I'm South African :) )

Interesting stats and info. Thanks.

Comments

Yes, of course, you are a direct descendant of a sister of Johanna.

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Alice is my 10th great grandmother

Answer 7

I am 14° from Alice but only 10° from Helene Des Portes (my 10th great grandmother).

Answer 8

The number of CC7 connections boggles the mind.

I am 15 degrees from Alice Bradford, but I don't have any Mayflower ancestors (that I know of).

Comments

Yes it's even more mind-boggling if you look beyond CC7 ...

1	29	30
2	265	295
3	1682	1977
4	7546	9523
5	24830	34353
6	81613	115966
7	209749	325715
8	406493	732208
9	627567	1359775
10	923967	2283742
11	1381409	3665151
12	2016224	5681375
13	2653217	8334592
14	3022884	11357476
15	3004641	14362117
16	2738680	17100797
17	2461226	19562023
18	2257914	21819937
19	2051125	23871062
20	1774810	25645872
21	1459016	27104888
22	1151095	28255983
23	880761	29136744
24	665507	29802251
25	500278	30302529

CC25 over 30M is about 95% of all the connected profiles. 

Answer 9

Took a quick look at Alice. My distance to her is ten. She is my 7th great grand aunt.

Comments

Impressive. See my comment on Darlene's answer below.

Answer 10

I'm 12 degrees away, which is not surprising since I have Mayflower ancestors.

This is a super cool post, Bernard!

Answer 11

I am 14 degrees from her.

Answer 12

I am 16 degrees from Alice. The person five degrees away from me is the person who emigrated from Sweden to the US (in 1888).

The 16-degree path goes through my father. If I try a path through my mother instead it's 19 degrees. The emigrant in this path is also five degrees away from me (she left Sweden in 1884).

Answer 13

I'm eleven degrees from her.  Her second husband James Fitch s my 8th great-grandfather.  I descend from him and his first wife.

Comments

Such short distances, 11 for you, and 10 for Jean in above answer, are difficult to challenge, except by direct descendants. The WT+ report about Alice's descendants says the most recent at distance 7 were born in 1931, at distance 8 in 1960, and distance 9 in 1980. So maybe we have active WikiTreers among those.

But thinking some of her C7 are still alive is impressive.

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David Leonard Adams (1931 - 2006) was a descendant of Alice at d=7. He has three siblings in WT, including one private profile born in the 1930s, who hopefully is still living.

Answer 14

Alice is my 6th great-grandaunt.  Finding differences in year of birth and date of death.  One says born in 27 March 1661 and the other 1659.  Died March 10 or 15th...which is right?

Answer 15

Very interesting. Alice Fitch is my 8th GGM.