Québécois project profile needs experienced input

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Whilst adopting orphaned profiles of direct ancestors, I realized that the profile of my fourth-great-grandmother Marie Gontier has problems that I glossed over when I first created it. After much work, I think I have the facts straight now. I even found what I'm pretty sure is her burial record (absent from other trees, so I'm chuffed about that). But there are still questions, and I'm not yet fully confident that I have all the answers. I welcome input from those more experienced than I am before I consider this profile finished.
WikiTree profile: Marie Gontier
in Genealogy Help by Véronique Boulanger G2G6 (9.5k points)

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bonjour Véronique

Gonthier - Gauthier are often confused together, Gauthier being much more prevalent.  Just looking at her parents' family, she had a brother named François at birth who lived to marry.  Under the given name Joseph.  So yes, it is very possible that she didn't like Madeleine and just went by Marie.  Does the marriage contract give her an age?  That would help narrow things down.

By the way, she died in Montréal, not Québec.  Her funeral record lists her as widow of François Daniau dit Laprise, aged 70.  But since ages at death are often estimates by clergy, that last is to be taken with a grain of salt (large).
by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (672k points)
Bonjour et merci pour la réponse, Danielle. Thank you for edits. I hadn't caught up to my findings yet.

I understand that she or her parents might have chosen to call her Marie rather than Madeleine (the name her godmother Madeleine Leroux gave her, I'm guessing). But since there's no actual evidence, no link, I'll note that Madeleine being Marie is possible but not certain. She can't be any of the other daughters her parents had, so maybe even probable.

The copy of the marriage contract I have has only the names of the couple, not the parents. The act of marriage does not call her a minor, so hopefully that suggests that she was 21 or older.

I know that the age on a burial record is not necessarily reliable. When I looked at the St-Charles registry for 1750, I found only the burial of an anonymous newborn.  wonder when she went all the way upriver to Montréal. After the 1802 marriage of her son François, I guess. I haven't seen this kind of movement before.

If the profile (with some final corrections) is solid enough for you, then I'll do final edits and be done with it for now.
ah, took a look at the sharing link for the marriage contract.  That is not the contract but just the listing by the notary of his acts.  Basically his summary to track things with.  That's all BAnQ has the same online also.  You might check if FamilySearch has the actual contracts.
I knew it was just a copy of information, and very basic. I should call those notarial listings something other than Contrat de mariage, I guess.

I checked FamilySearch. Looks like they have no documentation of the marriage at all.

FamilySearch: Jean-Antoine Panet, notaire his acts are in there.  They appear to have them all, leaving it to you to explore.  If you need help on that, let me know here.

I have never seen an actual contract like this. What a rich document! Thank you both!

Is there a record page that Sourcer understands? Or do people just grab the image URL?

Format would be this for source citation:

URL FamilySearch, Panet, Jean-Antoine, Notaire, Actes, Boîtes 11-17 (11 mars 1779 - 10 oct. 1782) Granite Mountain Record Vault, United States & Canada Film #2117284 Image Group Number (DGS) 8884462 pgs X-Y/Z

Add pertinent brackets to it, URL would be that of the first page of the act itself.

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