How to describe Baden (Germany)

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What is the correct name of the geographical area and ruling authority of Baden (Germany) in 1857? In a profile, I want to write that someone was born in Baden, ?? in 1857.
in The Tree House by Donna Hughes G2G6 Mach 1 (10.1k points)

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According to Wikipedia, the Grand Duchy of Baden was a sovereign state from 1806 to 1871. I would just leave it at that (and this is how I usually handle pre-unification German states).

by Geoff Buck G2G2 (2.0k points)
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I would use : place, Baden, Deutscher Bund

since the souvereign state of Baden was part of  the Deutscher Bund from 1815 to 1866 .

The Deutscher Bund was formed by souvereign states as the European Union is today.
by Alexandra-Brigitte Scholz G2G6 Mach 4 (41.1k points)
I agree with Alexandra. Actually it is better to use "Deutscher Bund" (=German Confederation) at the end, since otherwise it will come right back to you as a suggestion. The system does not recognize Baden as valid nation (I think).

I personally prefer the addition of the "Großherzogtum" (Grand Duchy) though, to differenciate it better from the "Markgrafschaft Baden" (Margraviate) before 1806 and the "Freistaat Baden" (Freestate) after 1918.
I prefer "Grand Duchy" as well, but I do hesitate a bit about the "Deutscher Bund". I haven't really thought about it, because the situation didn't come up, but would you recommend using "European Union" for place names after 1993? To my thinking, that looks like overkill.
I prefer "Grand Duchy" for the reasons Danny has given. I don't hesitate to use "Deutscher Bund" as a collection of sovereign states. This example is a bit different to the membership of European Union after 1993.
The German guidelines are described in https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Germany_Project_Location_Field_Guidelines.

Unlike the locations written in German, the migration categories are written in English, for example: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Migrants_from_Grand_Duchy_of_Baden_to_Pennsylvania
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Thank you to the many people who responded to my inquiry...and gave explanations.
by Donna Hughes G2G6 Mach 1 (10.1k points)

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