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I've searched the Essex Archives (ESO), Suffolk Archives, and the UK's National Archives and the only Thankful results I got were four hits on Thankful Frewen (and her husband John Frewen) out of Northiam Sussex . No Thankful Newton (or Bigge for that matter) results in East Anglia between 1550-1650.

This profile was an import from someone's GEDcom they uploaded over 12 years ago. This profile should be merged with [[Bigg-23|Thankful Bigg (1605-1605)]] which we do have multiple sources for her baptism and death.

It should also be mentioned that several "sources" have Thankful's maiden name as Bigg/Bigge. Those sources get promulgated through some of the dirty wash of too much genealogy research and you end up with one or two erroneous people mucking up entire lines and generations down stream.

Cory Newton
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Is there a will for Isaac Newton? That might tell the name of his wife, first name anyway. And it might give the names of in-laws. As it is, this and closely related profiles look very iffy.
by Living Mead G2G6 Mach 7 (73.3k points)

I doubt it because this Isaac Newton likely did not exist. I think [[Newton-101|Isaac Newton (1577-1641)]] was created by the people who are trying to align the King of Nerds Newton family with our lower class commoner Newton immigrants. It's a junk profile that should be merged to clean up the database. 

It's teenager-like fan fiction

I've checked FreeREG and FindMyPast and there are zero records for an Isaac Newton (name variants used) born between 1565-1585 within 50 miles of Essex and Suffolk since Newton-101 lists a birth as 1575 in Essex (and provides no sources for that dob either).

Newton 101's profile should be merged with [[Newton-18|Isaac Newton (bef.1606-bef.1642)]] since the date of burials line up and when Newton 101's profile was created the only source it contained was the death of Isaac Newton in 1642 at Linconlshire. Clearly the same people, just with fantasy dates of birth.

This is frustrating...

I agree that Isaac's profile seems to conflate multiple people in quite different locations. Which makes it very difficult to work out who his "wife" is intended to be.

On import, Isaac's parents were stated to be Richard Newton and Isabel. They lived at Colsterworth, Lincolnshire. There was an Isaac Newton baptised there on 30 April 1573:

Isaac Newtonne was baptised Aprill the xxx [1573]

The record does not name the parents, but the time period is right for him to be the son of Richard and Isabel.

The baptism is available on FamilySearch (albeit mis-transcribed as Newsonne). The image (transcribed above) is available for subscribers on Findmypast.

Sometimes it is better to leave the "fictional" person on Wikitree with a clear notice to that effect, rather than merging them away. That way, when the next person goes to upload or create the false lineage, it should pop up that such a profile  already exists and reduce the number of merges that we have to deal with down the track.

Like pirates hung from posts to warn other pirates...well that escalated quickly, devil

I do see your point. 

Thanks

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