Challenge of the Week: Add missing Find A Grave connections between existing profiles

+26 votes
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Hi WikiTreers,

imageAleš's WikiTree+ data analysis has found thousands of people who are connected as parents and children or spouses on Wikidata pages or Find A Grave memorials, but are not connected on WikiTree even though they both have profiles.

The Wikidata hints can be difficult to address. The Find A Grave hints are much more abundant and easier to handle.

For example, here's how to handle items on the table for FindAGrave - Possible mother (1900-1999), i.e. 20th century mother-child connections.

Look in the Relation (Rel.) column for any child and mother pair and click the links to open their WikiTree profiles. Then click the links below those to open their Find A Grave memorials. You might want to right-click the links and keep all four open in separate tabs to review them.

Not all the information on Find A Grave is reliable. If there is a photo of a single gravestone that connects the mother and child, you can use that as your only source to connect them. Otherwise, either look for other sources to verify the connection, or mark the relationship as uncertain and add a Research Notes section on the child's profile saying that the relationship is based on Find A Grave and has not been independently verified.

Will you work on some of these with us? If so, or if you have any questions, please post below.

Thanks for helping!

in The Tree House by Eowyn Walker G2G Astronaut (2.5m points)
reshown by Aleš Trtnik
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11 Answers

+17 votes
I'm looking forward to working on some of these!

In addition to be benefit to the One Tree, it helps me to understand a task, and remember how to do it, by repeating items like this several times, at least.

Thanks!
by Sally Kimbel G2G6 Pilot (106k points)
+15 votes
Sure I'll help. Love these and do them anyway.

Great practice bits!
by Sue Townsend G2G6 Mach 2 (25.6k points)
+13 votes
I just completed one suggestion, confirming the spouse of  Farrington-1574   (Alice and Joseph Farrington).

My problem is that I found Alice's maiden name as "Gates".

I could not change her birth name (which would be more accurate).  So I added as other name.

What is the correct procedure here?
by NG Hill G2G6 Mach 8 (86.1k points)

NG, to change the LNAB you have to create a new Gates profile, then merge the existing Farmington-1574 profile into it. See this related answer: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/447668/how-do-i-initiate-a-merge?show=447689#a447689

The profile is an orphan so adopt it and change the LNAB. After you make the change you can orphan the profile again.

Do not create a duplicate, it is not a solution.
Thank you.

Adding myself as a profile manager.

Editing

Removing myself as a profile manager.

and all fixed according to sources found.
Solution is definitely not to create a new profile. If the profile had a PM, you send a message. Depending on how active they are, you can start the UPM process. Always add a comment if there is a PM so they would get that message also, but that way others understand the issue.
+13 votes
I would like to help with this - I'll look at NSW (Australia) project list and see how I go. This will be a new experience - there's always something new to do on WT; that's why I love it!
by Lynne Byass G2G6 Mach 1 (15.2k points)
edited by Lynne Byass
+9 votes
As an FYI, I've been working on adding the parents to Summers-1120 (Franklin Henry Summers) for the last couple of weeks (the privacy level is public). I put in an unresponsive profile manager request yesterday to adopt it. Hopefully we'll soon be able to add both the father and mother to the profile.
by K Frazier G2G6 (8.6k points)
+10 votes
I'm in, it's a great short-term, high benefit task!
by Loretta Buckner G2G6 Mach 2 (21.3k points)
+9 votes
I would love to help
by Cynthia Duhamel G2G6 Mach 2 (20.9k points)
+9 votes
Yes, I will participate.  Hope I understand directions correctly!
by Susan Marx G2G6 Mach 1 (12.7k points)
+9 votes
i will give it a go
by Sam Mckevitt G2G Crew (470 points)
+9 votes
I’ll help
by P Whittington G2G6 Mach 2 (21.8k points)
+7 votes
I have been informed multiple times (very often rudely) since I started creating records 3 weeks ago that Find a Grave is unreliable and using it as a cited source is unacceptable. Since then, I have limited my records creation to my own family members where I have some other primary source material. Why is there a site-wide effort to do this if it's an unacceptable source material?
by David Jones G2G Crew (410 points)
David, it's unfortunate that folks have been rude.

Not everyone on WIkiTree agrees that this is a good project, because FindAGrave, like any unsourced user-generated site is not reliable.  If there is a photo of a headstone, that at least gives some backup to the info.  I have a couple of ancestors who are erroneously connected to parents on FG and when I presented the FG profile manager with the proof and requested an edit, they simply rejected the request. I would be very unhappy if, because of a project like this, someone went in and connected those profiles on WIkiTree after dozens of hours of research on my and others' parts could not come up with a single source to support it and in fact, have evidence to the contrary. I'd likely be unintentionally rude to the user that did that. (But then, I hope we would have entered a research note on the profile describing our research to prevent that in the first place!)

Since one of our goals here is to connect as many folks to the tree as possible, I think we can sometimes be a bit too eager to connect profiles.

The instructions on the project are to use the FG as a hint and search for primary sources. All profiles we put on WikiTree should be sourced.  They should have the best sources available.  There are research tools "rootsearch" on each profile to help with that.  There are usually primary sources to be found.  If there are not, then using FindAGrave with an "uncertain " status is something that some of us will do and some of us will not. I'm generally in the "will not" camp because of my experience I recounted above.   I would rather put an Unsourced tag "{{Unsourced}}" on a profile, which will tip off others to look for sources, than use FG (or any user-generated unsourced tree) as the sole source.  I might put the FG in a research note as a hint for other searchers though.

I think WikiTreers tend to be touchy about unsourced and unreliably sourced claims because many mistakes are made based on people copying unsourced and incorrect information. Unsourced trees (and unsourced connections on FG) are simply family stories until they are proven with sources. They don't become genealogy until they are sourced or at least supported with a bunch of circumstantial evidence in the absence of sources.

Perhaps  a good project would be for you to go back to your created profiles and use the RootsSearch tool to find  one primary source for each of the profiles you created or tag them as unsourced for other folks who like searching for sources to research, The Help Section has some good info on sources.

I hope this gives you a little insight into why this is a bit of a controversial project.

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