Is it possible to get lists of ship passengers leaving the U.S. for Europe in 1897, 1899 and early 1900s?

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My grandmother, Dorothy Heisman, left the U.S. on a ship (name unknown) for Europe (possibly Germany) in 1897 bearing Passport No. 983 issued on April 5, 1897. She gave birth to my father, Warren Loring Heisman, on Sept. 13, 1897, in England (I have a copy of his birth certificate). She then lived In Germany as my father was educated there. She made periodic trips to the U.S. According to second passport application, she left U.S. on Nov. 23, 1899. Over departures from U.S. occurred on Oct. 25, 1902; June 8, 1904; and June 6, 1914. I cannot find the names of any ships she traveled on.

This is additional information to the above. My grandmother was an American citizen born in Richmond, Va., according to her passport application issued in Minnesota on April 5, 1897, and in Lodi, WI, in subsequent passport applications (1900, 1902, 1904, 1915). She left the U.S. sometime in 1897 and gave birth to my father in England that year (she names the father on the birth certificate as John William Heisman of Heisman Trophy fame). Her name on the first passport was Dorothy Fairfax Heisman, it then changed to Dorothy v. Heisman (2nd and 3rd passports), Dorothy Virginia Fairfax Brown Heisman (4th passport) and Dorothy von Heisman (5th passport; she should not have used the "von"). From the end of the 19th century she lived in Germany and married a man name Ernst Moll around 1916, although she apparently knew him from around 1905. I have not found out where she married Moll, but she lived in Hamburg and then Berlin. From at least around 1935 she was in Shanghai (can't find any info of what she was doing there.) She boarded the SS President Wilson in Hong Kong in 1951 under the name Dorothy Moll (and c/o Dept. of State) and died in San Francisco the following year. Her death certificate names her father as George Brown and her mother as Elmira Lasser. My interest lies in tracing Dorothy's movements from the U.S. to Europe and what she was doing in Germany and China.
in The Tree House by Trevor Loring G2G Crew (550 points)
edited by Trevor Loring

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Was your a US citizen BORN or she was a naturalized citizen?

Did your father in live in the US as a citizen or was he a citizen of England or Germany?

Does the information below sound at all familiar?

1.Birth:  13 September 1897 (13 Sep 1897) - Essex, England  Death:  March 1959 (Mar 1959) - Berkshire, England  Parents:  John William Heisman, Dorothy Virginia Fairfax Brown  Spouse:  Irene Legget

2. Warren Von Heisman

13 Sep 1897

Born: Mistley, Essex, England

Passport PhotoYes

Residence Cleveland, OH

Residence Hubertushöhe, Mark, Prussia,

Father: John William Heisman

Father's birth location: Cleveland, OH

http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_ny1900.shtml 

Try visiting this site - I put in your mother's name based on the brief information I had.  Also, if she had siblings - that makes a HUGE difference. 

by Laura Brown G2G1 (1.8k points)
selected by Trevor Loring
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You might try some searches under the Transcriber's Guild (ISTG) at http://www.immigrantships.net/

as well as Olive Tree http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/index1.shtml

Think Rootsweb also may have a section of Immigrant Passengers,

Don't know about outbound from US.  Think these might be mostly inbound.

Hope that helps.
by Sandy Edwards G2G6 Mach 7 (79.7k points)
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After hitting blank walls for months, I finally phoned Ellis Island and ran your question by its archivists. My search was ended in a matter of minutes. I found that my gm Anna Berg, b. 1889 in Germany came over alone in The Barbarossa, a new steamship, with $10 in her pocket. She was barely 17 yrs old. That led to questions about her son's, my father's, arrival. That date of travel (1907) led to a story of being born unwanted (no father's name was on the birth register) and unable to be provided for by a teenage mother in solo flight.

Anna was essentially an orphan (only her father lived by 1907), the only story she'd tell her family later, so she'd come to find work in a foreign land, the USA. My father (Rudolf) was left with Anna's gm, my ggm Rosa/Rosalin Baer, at 4 months old. He was reared by Rosa for 4 years. Rosa, brave soul, was 73 when she brought 4yr old over  on The Cleveland.

I ended by buying ships' manifests from Ellis Island, and I was so grateful to be able to do that. They've led to shreds of evidence I have yet to follow in the details on those photocopies. You too may find rich details there. You can then email the archives in significant towns in your family and find oodles of facts. Thank you Ellis Island for providing the basis of my father's family tree.

If Anna Berg had not been brave and left Germany when she did, I and my sons might not have been born. WWI and WWII deleted many people from family trees. 

In 2015, I am still searching for Rosa (nee Schmid then Herrmann (when legitimized by her father after the early death of his Wife, Veronika Schmid) Baer. that these surnames are common ones is an obstacle. thus where Rosa Schmid was born is eluding me--I can't find an archivist unless I find the town/city of her birth. SOS, out there. : > )

by Living Hilse G2G2 (2.3k points)
edited by Living Hilse
Great story and good lead for Treavor..

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