Problem determining correct Given Name

Question

Back about 2010 I was contacted by someone named Ray Sewell with further info re my mother's BLACK family. That info indicated the following:

Notes-from-Ray-Sewell:

•Jemima Paull Kemp was born on 10 February 1871 at Slains, Ellon, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, father James Kemp not named on Birth cert.

•As of 26 December 1894, Jemima Paull Kemp lived at Kebbaty House, Minmar, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.

•She married Alexander Black, son of Alexander Black and Jane Tough, on 26 December 1894 at Cafe Building, Shiprow, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.

Family: Alexander Black b. c 1863

i.Mary Kemp Black b. 17 Dec 1891

ii.Alexander Black b. 28 Apr 1897

iii.Jane Ann Tough Paull Black b. 28 Jan 1899

iv.George Shepard Black+ b. 22 Feb 1901

I have been adding my family tree into WikiTree and trying where possible to provide citations without cost of buying images and have run into a dilemma with the of profile Kemp-10099.

Could someone pleas look at this profile and my research notes and suggest if there is a better conclusion?

Answer 1

I think Ray Sewell is correct that a Jemima  Kemp Paull was born 10 Feb 1871 but he wasn't right on  two points. Firstly, her parents were unmarried. At birth ,she took her mothers surname( Paull) with with her fathers name (Kemp).as a given name.   Secondly, birthplace; this appears to be Alford.  There is a paternity suit between an Ann Paull and a James Kemp  for a child born 1871 (need to pay to see more details). On censuses, her surname appears as Kemp.

 In the 1871 census Jemima was in Alford with her grandmother, mother and other assorted relatives.

In 1881 she is with her paternal grandparents and father in 1881

In 1901 a Jemima Black born Alford is with husband Alexander, and children Mary, Alexander, Jane TP.  George S.Her age on the transcript is  stated as 20. She should be 30: you'd need to see the original image (Scotland's people) to check. It is most probably a mistranscript as they  (they have a 10 year old daughter).

Scotland birth and Christenings index

Name: Jemima Kemp Paull

Gender: Female

Birth Date: 10 Feb 1871

Birth Place: Alford,Aberdeen,Scotland

Mother: 

Ann Paull

1564-1950 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.

Original data: Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013. (So should be on Family Search)

This appears to be her mother's paternity claim.

http://www.scottishindexes.com/courttranscript.aspx?courtid=1018002

Scotland 1871 Census Parish: Alford; ED: 5; Page: 5; Line: 12 

Name: Jemima Kemp

Age: 1

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870

Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter)

Gender: Female

Where born: Alford, Aberdeenshire

Registration Number: 171

Registration district: Alford

Civil parish: Alford

County: Aberdeenshire

Address: Stronehill

ED: 5

Household schedule number: 16

Line: 12

Roll: CSSCT1871_36

Household Members Age Relationship

Jane Anderson 55 Head

Ann Pull 23 Daughter

Jane Ann Sutherland 6 Grandaughter (Granddaughter)

Margaret Davie 4 Grandaughter (Granddaughter)

Alexr Pirie 2 Grandson

Jemima Kemp 1 Grandaughter (Granddaughter)

George Masson 37 Nephew

Susan Masson 34 Niece

John Masson 11 Children Of Mussen Son

Samuel Masson 9 Son

Isabella Masson 6 Daughter

Susan Masson 2 Daughter

Scotland 1881 census (from.Ancestry.. It should be on Family Search)Parish: Lumphannan; ED: 2; Page: 7; Line: 5

Name: Jemima Kemp

Age: 10

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871

Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter)

Father's Name: James Kemp

Gender: Female

Where born: Alford, Aberdeen Sh

Registration Number: 220

Registration district: Lumphannan

Civil parish: Lumphannan

County: Aberdeenshire

Address: Perkhill

Occupation: Scholar

Household Members Age Relationship

John Kemp 74 Head

Margaret Kemp 69 Wife

James Kemp 38 Son

Jemima Kemp 10 Grandaughter (Granddaughter)

Marriage to Alexander Black  1894 as on profile

1901 Scotland Census Parish: Aberdeen North; ED: 18; Page: 45; Line: 15; Roll: CSSCT1901_51

Name: Jemima Black

Age: 20

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881

Relationship: Wife

Spouse's Name: Alexander Black

Gender: Female

Where born: Alford, Aberdeenshire

Registration Number: 168/1

Registration district: St Nicholas

Civil parish: Aberdeen North

County: Aberdeenshire

Address: 48, Jasmine Ter

ED: 18

Household schedule number: 236

Line: 15

Roll: CSSCT1901_51

Household Members Age Relationship

Alexander Black 37 Head

Jemima Black 20 Wife

Mary Black 10 Daur (Daughter)

Alexander Black 3 Son

George S Black 1 mo son

Jane T P Black 2 Daur (Daughter)

(Jemimas age mistranscribed?).

Comments

These may also be worth researching. They sound right but same names  aren't always same people.All from indexes on Ancestry and best searched on Scotlands People

BIRTHS to an  Ann Paull of Alford 

Name: Alexander Paull

Gender: Male

Birth Date: 16 Dec 1868

Birth Place: Alford,Aberdeen,Scotland

Mother: 

Ann Paull

Name: Jane Ann Paull

Gender: Female

Birth Date: 9 Oct 1864

Birth Place: Alford,Aberdeen,Scotland

Mother: 

Ann Paull

Name: Margaret Davie Paull

Gender: Female

Birth Date: 7 Dec 1866

Birth Place: Alford,Aberdeen,Scotland

Mother: 

Ann Paull

Marriage of Ann Paull

Name: Ann Paull

Gender: Female

Marriage Date: 26 Jun 1875

Marriage Place: Alford, Aberdeen, Scotland

Spouse: 

Peter Harper

Ann Harper and children on Census (

1881 Scotland Census

Name: Ann Harper

[Ann Anderson]

Age: 33

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848

Relationship: Wife

Spouse's Name: Peter Harper

Mother's Name: Jane Anderson

Gender: Female

Where born: Alford, Aberdeenshire

Registration Number: 171

Registration district: Alford

Civil parish: Alford

County: Aberdeenshire

Address: Mid Strone

ED: 5

Household schedule number: 7

Line: 11

Roll: cssct1881_55

Household Members Age Relationship

Peter Harper 34 Head

Ann Harper 33 Wife

Peter Harper 9 Son

Ann F S Harper 4 Daughter

James Harper 3 Son

Barbara Harper 8 Mo. Daughter

Alexr Paul 12Son-in-law

Margrie Davie 14 Daughter-in-law

Jane Anderson 65 Mother-in-law

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/155133437/annie-harper

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Thank you Helen.  I think you are right and I will correct what I've already entered into WikiTree.  I have never been able to figure out how to use Family Search and rely solely on Scotlandspeople indices and FreeCen.  I am a senior living on  a non-indexed pension from 1997 and so curtail my spending as much as possible.  Anyhow, I've now encountered another issue with this family while trying to provide citations for their 4 children.  The first according to Ray Sewell was named Mary Kemp BLACK [Black-20983] born 17 Dec 1891 in Alford, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, 3 years before Alexander & Jemima married.  I was unable to find a birth registration for a Mary Kemp Black, but I did find a Mary Black Kemp born 1891 in Alford and I believe they are one and the same. So, I have used KEMP as her Last Name at Birth. However, from that point on she seems to have been named Mary Kemp Black. Should BLACK be Current Last Name until determined if she married?  Should Black also be reported as Other Last Name(s)? 

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Hi Helen.  I have edited Jane Paull KEMP's profile with your research info but I am unhappy with how her profile name now appears.  Should I have completed the 7 possible entries for name differently?  Also, even though the Scotlandspeople birth registration spells her last name at birth as PAUL, I have chosen to treat it as a typo and have used PAULL instead.  Am I correct?

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Re second  comment .I've changed the middle name to  Kemp as on the birth index. Is that better? You can revert it if you think it's not right.

I also find family search hard to use..It used to be better but even when I know exactly what I'm looking for, I don't always find it. I have an Ancestry sub and it works for me because they have images of records from the areas I usually work in. (no Scottish ancestors)

The problem with indexes is twofold. Firstly you have to hope the transcripts are accurate. Secondly the indexes don't  always include all the information in the original. I agree that the index record  you found for Mary Black Kemp sounds right.This is where an image would be invaluable. I wonder if the original calls her  illegitimate or her mother a single woman.

It's worth asking your question about Mary's name in another question. I would call her Mary Black Kemp at birth with an AKA Black  but I don't know if that is 'right'.

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Thank you Helen.  I think given the cercumstances, that is the best that can be achieved.