I am questioning the father of immigrant William Thrall b 1605

Question

The wikitree profile for William Thrall born about 1605 seems to show his father is another William Thrall from Dorsetshire, England however the profile for the younger William Thrall says he was born in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England.

There appears to be a baptism/christening record for a William Thrale born 1607 with a father named Raphe Thrale in Sandridge, Hertfordshire, England.  There doesn't seem to be any such evidence that this William Thrall/Thrale b 1605/1607 had a father of the same name from Dorsetshire, England.

The family search profile for William Thrall/Thrale shows his father as Raphe.  William Thrall on Family Search

Should the father be changed to Raphe?

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Bill, I added PGM to the tags so the eyes that can help will have a look at what you’ve uncovered.

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Thank you for your help.

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Looking at the profile, this was discussed pretty heavily earlier this year by Joe C, one of PGM's most senior researchers.  The (or at least "A") difficulty seems to be in showing that William the immigrant was also William of Hertford, or really William of Anywhere.  The main "Thrale" genealogy book referenced actually seems to show that William son of Raphe stayed in England and died there in 1656, so was NOT William the immigrant.  Worth re-reading those comments in detail, I think.

Also, the suggestion was made back then to disconnect the current father (William) from William the immigrant (Thrall-8) which I think does make sense, barring new information or new analysis.  I've updated the profile but not yet removed his father giving other folks a chance to weigh in.

Answer 1

Should be baptism and military records to substantiate these claims from Find a Grave.  https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/74934355/william-thrall

The contributor here says that he arrived on the Mary and John in 1630?  Wonder if the shipping record might give more information?

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I've looked for other baptism records for William Thrall to possibly find one with a 1605 date but most don't have a date.

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Findagrave has no particular reliability; I am a Findagrave volunteer, and I've never been given any standards at all.  So -- if there are no links to sources or source citations, there's no real reason to think there ARE sources.
 

Since the information on THIS profile was put here in 2010, and the Findagrave profile was created in 2011, it's entirely possible that they just copied the exact information that we're questioning -- from this profile on Wikitree.

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Here is the book of records of the First Church in Dorchester Massachusetts where the founders of Windsor came from, perhaps there is mention of him or family in here.

https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/128084-redirection

Early births, marriages and deaths entered in early land records

https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/26816-redirection

Early vital records of Windsor from 1638 - births, marriages and death mentioning William Thrall

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BT-8Z52?i=3&cat=471242

I am not a member of ancestry but they apparently have the records of the first puritans to come to Conneticut and a William Thrall is mentioned in the records here,

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/48128/?name=_thrall

The cemetery where he is buried may have some information on him or the historical society/archives may, with a headstone that big there was some importance to the family.

Good luck.