William Thrall migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Directory, by R. C. Anderson, p. 335) Join: Puritan Great Migration Project Discuss: pgm
This profile represents William Thrall, early immigrant to Windsor, Connecticut.[1]
Uncertain Origins
This profile originally claimed, without a verified source, that his father was named William Thrall supposedly of Netherbury, Dorset (with no sources on the profile) . A baptismal record of August 8, 1605 in Sandridge, Hertsfordshire, England (150 miles from Netherbury) was asserted as a record of this immigrant William. A record in Sandridge of christening of William Thrale, son of Raphe on 18 Oct 1607 IS found[2] but there is apparently no proof yet that this, or any other particular William Thrall baptism found to-date in England, was proven to be William the immigrant to Connecticut (see comments section). Very likely the 1607 William Thrale was the man of the same name at the same location whose will was apparently probated in 1661 (also found at findmypast.co.uk). Certainly the names Thrale/Thrall (Ralph, William Thomas etc) appear in Sandridge land and court deeds in the 1500s and 1600s showing the family's presence for generations.[3]
He became a member, in 1630, of the Congregational church formed in Plymouth, England, under the ministry of Rev. John Wareham.[4]
The Puritan Great Migration Project, umbrella project for William Thrall's profile, gives preference to the scholarly work of Robert Charles Anderson in his Great Migration series and all other works, as listed in the sources here under The Great Migration Directory. Cutter offers no sources for claiming that William Thrall was associated with Rev Warham in England, or that William Thrall was in Dorchester, Massachusetts prior to his claiming land in Windsor in 1637, or that he went to Windsor with Warham's congregation in 1636.[4] There are no records for William Thrall in Dorchester in the comprehensive survey done by Frank Thistlethwaite (1989)[1] however, William Thrall is named on page 274 as having 20 acres, listed among First Grants from the Plantation - registered by the end of 1641.[1] (Rev. Warham arrived in Windsor by July 1636, see page 109.[1])
Immigrated to Windsor, Connecticut
Robert Charles Anderson, in his Great Migration Directory (2015), has William Thrall's immigration date (or earliest known record in New England) as by 1640.[5] The date may be an error in the Directory, because Dawes-Gates Ancestral Lines, a source cited for Thrall in the Directory, gives 1637 for the date that William Thrall was granted "a lot thirteen rods wide".[6]
"William Thrall, of Sandridge, Hertfordshire, was older, a quarryman and stonemason" and fought in the Pequot war.[1]
William Thrall came to Windsor before the Pequot War (1637), in which he was a soldier from Windsor. In 1646, he and Robert Wilson bought Hoyte's Meadow, which was far outside the town. Because of the distance, he was exempted from the duty of "watch and ward", so he could be home nights with his family.
He took an active part in the Pequot war,
William Thrall purchased land in Windsor in 1646, where he settled with his family. As this location was distant from any neighbors and exposed to attacks from the Indians, he was exempted from the duties of “watch and ward,” to which all able-bodied men of the settlement were liable. This location has ever since been occupied by his descendants, who have maintained the reputation of the family for thrift, industry, public spirit and all that constitutes good citizenship.
Marriage and Children
The maiden name of William Thrall's wife has not yet been found. Her death was recorded as "Old Goode Thrall d. July 30, 1676."[6]
According to Torrey's "New England Marriages to 1700" he married an unknown woman by 1639 at Windsor, the uncertain "Goode" name may have been based on the entry in Windsor vital records stating “Old Goode Thrall,” died July 30, 1676. [7]Torrey said this:
THRALL, William (1606-1679) & ____ [GOODE]? (-1676); by 1639; Windsor, CT[8]
Children of William Thrall born in Windsor and listed explicitly in his will of 1678 were:
Phillippa who married John Hosford 5 Nov 1657 implying a birth date of 1649 or earlier.[10] (familysearch indexes this as "Phillip" but the marriage is clearly to John Hosford and she is called Phillipa Hosford in William's will)
Geni.com attributes a son David as of September 2021 but with no sources so this should be researched further.[11]
Death & Estate
William Thrall left a will, dated December 11, 1678.[12] His son Timothy and his daughter Phillipi Hosford are the only children he names in his will.[12] He names his granddaughter Sarah Hosford, and gives to her "the little house I have begun to build on John Hosford's Land".[12]
William Thrall died at Windsor, Connecticut, August 3, 1679.[13][12]
↑ 4.04.1Historic Homes and Places and Genealogical and Personal Memoirs Relating to the Families of Middlesex County, Massachusetts, by William Richard Cutter, (1908), Vol 4, page 1414
↑The Great Migration Directory, Robert Charles Anderson, (2015), page 335
↑ "Connecticut, Vital Records, Prior to 1850," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPSL-SLBK : 21 September 2019), Old Goode Thrall, ; citing Death, , Compiled by Lucius A. and Lucius B. Barbour, housed at State Library, Hartford, Connecticut; FHL microfilm 008143424.
↑ New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015. Vol. 3 p. 1514
↑ "Connecticut, Vital Records, Prior to 1850," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP74-FLJD : 21 September 2019), Timothy Thrall, ; citing Birth, , Compiled by Lucius A. and Lucius B. Barbour, housed at State Library, Hartford, Connecticut; FHL microfilm 008143424.
↑ "Connecticut, Vital Records, Prior to 1850," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPSL-SL1Z : 21 September 2019), Phillip Thrall, ; citing Marriage, , Compiled by Lucius A. and Lucius B. Barbour, housed at State Library, Hartford, Connecticut; FHL microfilm 008143424.
↑ 12.012.112.212.3 "A Digest of the early Connecticut probate records 1635 - 1700", by Charles William Manwaring, (1904). Vol. 1 p. 370
↑ "Connecticut, Vital Records, Prior to 1850," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP3W-6HVW : 21 September 2019), William Thrall, ; citing Death, , Compiled by Lucius A. and Lucius B. Barbour, housed at State Library, Hartford, Connecticut; FHL microfilm 008143424.
See Also
Memorial: "Find a Grave", database with images, Find A Grave: Memorial #74934355 (accessed 25 March 2023), Memorial page for William Thrall (8 Aug 1605-3 Aug 1679), citing Palisado Cemetery, Windsor, Hartford County, Connecticut, USA (plot: Founder's Monument); Maintained by Lorraine Anderson (contributor 46820770). (contains unsourced biography that conflicts with the notes in this profile).
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Patricia, thanks for your interest in this profile. I've updated it to reflect that, while geni.com shows a son David with no sources, William's will only lists 2 children, Timothy and Phillippa (Thrall) Hosford. If you have a primary source showing a son David, that would be great to see. You should note that the only David Thrall found so far in Windsor vital records (Barbour) was born 100 years later in 1749.
Thanks for the reply. Right now I am having issue with Ancestry so I let my membership lapse for a bit, I tired to get the document I was not able to even though it is attached to his mother. . I do not have him on my heritage tree yet. Let me get back to you on this. I will grad the documents as requested.
I understand that the FindAGrave source says "His father was also named William." but I'm unsure where THEY got that information from? I've been looking at this family for HOURS tonight and keep coming across this baptismal record and nothing else:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J94V-K9H
It very clearly shows Raphe Thrale as William's father. There is an incredible genealogy of the entire Thrale/Thrall family called "A new Thraliana: a chronicle of the Thrale family of Hertfordshire" Printed by Falconer Press, 1973. I got it from Ancestry.com. They have Raphe as Ralph, but it's the same guy, and he has son William and daughter Elizabeth, same dates, same locations, baptismal records at the Parish, wonderful records, loads of sources, great bibliography. I read at least 2/3 of it tonight. They have lots more, too, like Ralph's wife, Elizabeth Gunwyn, her father William Gunwyn, Ralph's father is Thomas, property records, etc. I don't want to mess anything up here, but I don't think William's father is William. I think it's Ralph/Raphe.
What are your thoughts? I just became pre-1700 certified, so I'm going to defer to the project here, obviously. Thanks for your feedback and consideration.
So multiple sources seem to claim there was a WIlliam Thrale son William baptized on 8 August 1605 in Sandridge Hertfordshire, England. I can't find this on FamilySearch either but this doesn't mean this baptism doesn't exist. I assume it does represent a real record.
You have William son of Ralph Thrale baptized on 7 October 1607 in Sandridge, Hertford, England.
Both of these dates are close enough to his claimed age of 73 at death on 3 August 1679 that we cannot tell for sure which baptism is correct (though the 1605 baptism would give him the exact correct age).
So, does you book include the 1605 baptism? Does it have anyway to distinguish between William son of William (b. 1605), and William son of Ralph (b. 1607)?
Shows the William Thrale son of Ralph bp 18 October 1607 as marrying Margaret Smith, having sons Ralph and Thomas, and having died in 1656. None of whom were immigrants to New England. So why the difference? Does your source really have William (b. 1607) as the immigrant?
The Hunt for William Thrall's Ancestors, Sandridge at Thrale.com http://www.thrale.com/hunt_william_thralls_ancestors_sandridge
From reading this, William Thrall the immigrant should have no parents at all, and his precise birthdate should be removed and changed to about 1605 or 1606.
See also:
Thrall, William 1630 CT: Thoughts of Richard Thrale who wrote Thraliana. https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/thrall/29/
Richard wrote "the only possible candidate is William, son of Ralph Thrale, born 1607. It has always been reckoned that this William was of the NoMans Land line and that he married Margaret Smith of Redborn in 1632. If William did indeed come from Sandridge, I would guess that he was the son of Thomas Thrale Hammonds, 1579 to 1637 and with this particular section, there is a mass of loose ends. It is also quite possible he came from the Thrale's End family just north of Harpenden and only a few miles away."
I didn't see any children for him when looking. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I see that Raphe/Ralph may not be his father after all. While previously it said the Sandridge records were not searchable online and one had to go in person to see them, it seems some records have finally made it online. That's how it came up for me. I guess the other issue is that all these relatives are in the general Sandridge area, some at No Mans Land, some at Wheathampstead... So it's entirely possible he's part of that family, but now to find proof. Thanks for your thoughts.
Windsor, Connecticut was founded in 1634 by a group of Puritans from Dorchester, Massachusetts (who were originally from Dorchester, England).
William Thrall could not have been married in Windsor, CT in 1632. I changed the date to match the record in Torrey's New England Marriages' to 1700, which states "by 1639 at Windsor".
William and Elizabeth's eldest child may have been Phillipa, but no primary source is shown for her birth date of 5 Nov 1637. Her marriage date of 5 Nov 1657 is reported in Connecticut Vital Records to 1870, (Online Database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2011.) From original typescripts, Lucius Barnes Barbour Collection, 1928.
Recommend changing Phillipa's birth date to "about 1639".
Windsor, Hartford, Connecticut. How can I add him? Thanks
Thanks for the reply. Right now I am having issue with Ancestry so I let my membership lapse for a bit, I tired to get the document I was not able to even though it is attached to his mother. . I do not have him on my heritage tree yet. Let me get back to you on this. I will grad the documents as requested.
Thanks
I understand that the FindAGrave source says "His father was also named William." but I'm unsure where THEY got that information from? I've been looking at this family for HOURS tonight and keep coming across this baptismal record and nothing else: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J94V-K9H It very clearly shows Raphe Thrale as William's father. There is an incredible genealogy of the entire Thrale/Thrall family called "A new Thraliana: a chronicle of the Thrale family of Hertfordshire" Printed by Falconer Press, 1973. I got it from Ancestry.com. They have Raphe as Ralph, but it's the same guy, and he has son William and daughter Elizabeth, same dates, same locations, baptismal records at the Parish, wonderful records, loads of sources, great bibliography. I read at least 2/3 of it tonight. They have lots more, too, like Ralph's wife, Elizabeth Gunwyn, her father William Gunwyn, Ralph's father is Thomas, property records, etc. I don't want to mess anything up here, but I don't think William's father is William. I think it's Ralph/Raphe.
What are your thoughts? I just became pre-1700 certified, so I'm going to defer to the project here, obviously. Thanks for your feedback and consideration.
You have William son of Ralph Thrale baptized on 7 October 1607 in Sandridge, Hertford, England.
Both of these dates are close enough to his claimed age of 73 at death on 3 August 1679 that we cannot tell for sure which baptism is correct (though the 1605 baptism would give him the exact correct age).
So, does you book include the 1605 baptism? Does it have anyway to distinguish between William son of William (b. 1605), and William son of Ralph (b. 1607)?
Shows the William Thrale son of Ralph bp 18 October 1607 as marrying Margaret Smith, having sons Ralph and Thomas, and having died in 1656. None of whom were immigrants to New England. So why the difference? Does your source really have William (b. 1607) as the immigrant?
The Hunt for William Thrall's Ancestors, Sandridge at Thrale.com http://www.thrale.com/hunt_william_thralls_ancestors_sandridge From reading this, William Thrall the immigrant should have no parents at all, and his precise birthdate should be removed and changed to about 1605 or 1606.
See also: Thrall, William 1630 CT: Thoughts of Richard Thrale who wrote Thraliana. https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/thrall/29/ Richard wrote "the only possible candidate is William, son of Ralph Thrale, born 1607. It has always been reckoned that this William was of the NoMans Land line and that he married Margaret Smith of Redborn in 1632. If William did indeed come from Sandridge, I would guess that he was the son of Thomas Thrale Hammonds, 1579 to 1637 and with this particular section, there is a mass of loose ends. It is also quite possible he came from the Thrale's End family just north of Harpenden and only a few miles away."
Good question Joe, thank you.
Cheryl PGM Leader
edited by Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
William Thrall could not have been married in Windsor, CT in 1632. I changed the date to match the record in Torrey's New England Marriages' to 1700, which states "by 1639 at Windsor".
William and Elizabeth's eldest child may have been Phillipa, but no primary source is shown for her birth date of 5 Nov 1637. Her marriage date of 5 Nov 1657 is reported in Connecticut Vital Records to 1870, (Online Database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2011.) From original typescripts, Lucius Barnes Barbour Collection, 1928.
Recommend changing Phillipa's birth date to "about 1639".