Died after after about age 53
in Cheshire, England [uncertain]
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Biography
Gilbert de Venables,[1][2] earliest known lord of the Cheshire barony of Kinderton.
Gilbert is said to have come from Venables, Normandy. He sometimes appears in records as "Gilbert Venator". His parents are unknown; a pedigree records him as a younger brother of Stephen of Blois, but this has not been verified with contemporary sources.[3]
Gilbert is noted in the Domesday Book of 1086 as holding numerous properties in Cheshire.[3][4] In 1093, he gifted property to the abbey of St Werburgh, as confirmed by a charter of the Earl of Chester, made sometime between about 1096 and 1101.[3][5]
Research Notes
The birth year is a guess and could be wrong by several decades. The only dates for Gilbert at this point is that he was living at the time of the Domesday survey, published in 1086, and that he gifted property to St Werburgh's Abbey in 1093. Donnelly-2171 07:12, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
↑ Robert Glover, The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580 ... With Numerous Additions and Continuations Including ... The Visitation of Cheshire Made in the Year 1566 ..., The Publications of the Harleian Society, Visitation Series, vol. 18, edited by John Paul Rylands (London: The Society, 1882), p. 227, Venables, Baron of Kinderton.
De Vanables-13 and Venables-25 appear to represent the same person because: Despite the wide variation in birth years, both these profiles seem to represent the first Gilbert Venables, of Venables, who was later lord of the Cheshire barony of Kinderton. The 1040 birth year is the more realistic one. There is no Gilbert Venables documented in contemporary records prior to Venables-25 who migrated to Cheshire and is recorded in the Domesday Book.
Lot's of Gilbert's :) As this is the earliest Gilbert on the line, the one "who accompanied the Conqueror", assume he is the same person. If so, no spouse is known for Gilbert, and children would be incorrect as the name of his son is unknown. Three sources: The History of the County Palatine of Chester, pg. 566 by J. H. HANSHALL. Lee of Virginia, 1642-1892: Biographical and Genealogical Sketches of the Descendants of Colonel Richard Lee, pg. 18 by Edmund Jennings Lee. British Roots of Maryland Families II, pgs. 2321-232 by Robert W. Barnes.
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The father Thibaud III was born in 1010. Gilbert the son was born approximately 1048 -1050 after the marriage of father and mother in 1048.